Violence as self-defense

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Last week, a violent protest erupted on campus, in response to a scheduled speaking event by Milo Yiannopoulos. Many people soon began to decry the protesters. Here are a few arguments in favor of the use of violence in protests.

 


Op-ed: Check your privilege when speaking of protests

To people with platforms who decide when a protest should and should not be violent: You speak from a place of immense privilege. As I recently wrote in a tirade against this brand of idiocy, asking people to maintain peaceful dialogue with those who legitimately do not think their lives matter is a violent act.

— Nisa Dang,
UC Berkeley alumna


Op-Ed: Violence helped ensure safety of students

We share our stories and provide insight to the reality of the flawed immigration system. To out us is to remove that agency from us. It allows those with power  —  for example, those with a million followers  —  to twist our stories against us.

— Juan Prieto,
undocumented student, organizer and former layout designer at the Daily Californian


Op-Ed: Black bloc did what campus should have

The bloc was made up of people with the most to fight for and the most to lose.

— Neil Lawrence,
former Daily Cal columnist


Op-Ed: Condemning protesters same as condoning hate speech

I put my safety and my freedom on the line because letting Yiannopoulos speak was more terrifying to me than potential injury or arrest.

— Desmond Meagley
reporter and illustrator for Youth Radio


Op-Ed: Plurality of tactics contributed to cancellation of Milo Yiannopoulos event

In short: The principle of freedom of speech should not be extended to envelop freedom of hate speech, for the unchecked normalization of hate speech will have real consequences.

— Josh Hardman,
UC Berkeley student


Haruka Senju is the opinion editor. Contact him at [email protected].

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  • Daniel Martinez

    OMG, what a great discovery! We don’t have to prove the validity of our arguments in a civil discourse, we can just attack with violence anyone how is a thought criminal! I this way, we will prevent the spread of ideas that we don’t like intimidating wit terror anyone how oppose us! Sounds like no one EVER have thought that before, its soooo, progressive!!!11!!!1

    • Tricia

      Sarcasm is lost on the true believer.

  • Reese

    “Please keep our community civil. Comments should remain on topic and be respectful.” — as you endorse violence as being useful….amusing

  • ThothMRM

    This helps prove that staff and students were directly involved with this attack and violence. Pull Berkley’s federal funding.

  • Taka

    SJWs are cancer.

  • And just as I thought, the definition of fascism and violence have been twisted and warped in order to excuse anything you freaks are doing.

    Screw this. If you’re going to see Milo or someone, come armed.

  • Meittimies

    According to dailycal, sneaking up on women and macing them from behind and beating them up is “self-defence” now. How very “progressive” of you to promote violence against women, just because they share a different political affiliation to you.

    • Tricia

      A woman is only a woman if she agrees with current feminist ideology. It is not about biology.

  • Jeremy Meister

    It’s okay if we deny people their rights, bully, harass, destroy property and cause mayhem because we have a good liberal PC cause. :)

  • Toblerone

    Berkeley, the abortion clinic of free speech

  • Toblerone

    unbelievably shortsighted idiotic tripe by people who apparently can’t look far enough into the future or aren’t self aware enough to see that this same reasoning would likely be used by someone who has visited violence upon them. Do you realize your political philosophy is irrational?

  • chizwoz

    You should really think long and hard if you want to start making violence defensible when the other half of the country is armed to the teeth, and also happen to be far nicer to the police and military.

  • Ironically, the real fascists at Berkeley are the people calling themselves anti-fascists.

  • Jerry E. Fullerton

    It will be a real tragedy if this form of self defense becomes more popular since small arms ammunition remains relatively cheap and plentiful.

    • Tricia

      California is now regulating ammunition sales.

  • Khalisnky

    Don’t be fooled by this reverse psychology warfare! I wouldn’t be surprised if Breibart bought the Daily Cal and these bizarre op-eds are just planted by neocon fascist nazis. Nice try, alt-right, but we know no one on the left would right piece after piece after piece defending the use of violence and then see an independent student-run newspaper actually PUBLISH them. What do you take us for?

    Sheesh, Milo’s minions at it again.

    • RU_Serious

      I don’t know if this is serious or a shitpost. Poe’s Law in action!

      • Tricia

        Sarcasm. Robert Reich was on the news shows over the weekend and in print, claiming it wasn’t the Berkeley students who did the black bloc assault on free speech at Berkeley and he wouldn’t rule out is the black blockers were actually Brietbart/ Trump people.

  • RU_Serious

    The ironically named Antifas are the brownshirts of the current day, and they don’t even realize it.

  • Manuel Jimenez

    As a Cal grad (’94), the sentiments expressed by these children are revolting. If you condone violence to silence speech, you’re a fascist.

    • Tricia

      Thank you. But the word revolting was slightly ironic as they do wish to bring about a revolution.

  • Steve Kiefer

    Berkely was once called the “birth place of free speech” now it is the place where left wing fascism murdered it.

  • yestradamous

    These people think they are defending against Milo’s speech, as if he doesn’t have 50,000 other outlets to speak. As if every person who showed up to hear him hasn’t watched and read him for a couple of years now. As if trying to shut him up in person actually effectively shuts him up. As if these flaming ijits can keep people from hearing what he has to say.

    It’s ineffectual, and will get actual living, breathing people who want nothing to do with the self-imposed dramatics injured. It serves no purpose other than a hipster temper tantrum that terrorises others who want to speak in person in the future. So the brave masked men keep people from gathering under threat of broomstick bats and fires, but communication, “speech”, freedom to say what one wants, still goes on, thank goodness, and there’s not a damn thing these idiots can do about it.

    • Tricia

      It was very effective if their goals were:
      1) the immediate gratification that comes with achieving dominance through violence, if only for a brief time, and
      2) the longer term effort of anarchists to provoke governmental authorities to “show their true face” of violent force and thus inspire the masses to revolution.

      • yestradamous

        The masses aren’t going to be inspired to revolution by seeing the police stop idiots from burning up their own towns.

        • Tricia

          I certainly hope you are right. But unfortunately, the Black Lives Matter protests in Ferguson and Baltimore gave the impression that there are many who are happy to riot.

  • jeremie lederman

    WHEN SNOWFLAKES ATTACK….

    funny how these bold leftists seem so restrained in states that dont restrict gun rights.

    When will they come to phoenix and riot against all our racism? We had 5 terms of Joe Arpaio, didnt see you here acting up…

    Bgawk?

  • John Davies

    What other country would you POC and trannies rather live in? If it’s not this one, then it’s an even whiter one – that I can guarantee you. If you want Western civilization, then you need white people – and white people sure as heck don’t need you.

  • DerpDerpDerp

    Terrorists like you should be blag bagged and tossed in to GTMO. How dare you? We aren’t going to suffer you people much longer.

  • Diogo Rosberg

    Definition of Hate Speech for the “tolerant” left = “someone who even dares to statistically debate/oppose and disagree with me.” They are also automatically White Supremacists.

    Also by wiki’s definition of Fascism: “Fascism rejects assertions that violence is automatically negative in nature, and views political violence, war, (…)”. It does kinda seem like you guys aren’t far away from being fascists either. You’re just as bad as those on the Far-Right. Different face of the same coin. You’re hypocrites.

  • brian tokarski

    Sorry but there was no excuse for the violence at that event last week. Unless lives are being threatened, there is no excuse, and there wasn’t. To sit and say that you support free speech is just lying to yourself. Free speech is letting anyone speak, no matter how vulgar you want to believe it is or not and letting the public then decide where they sit as far as the topic goes. If what the speaker is saying is ridiculous, then the public will treat it as such and the speaker will stop seeing people show up at speeches. Thats how it works. Not you determining who can and can’t speak, then when you don’t get your way you destroy the property in which the event was to take place. That just makes you look like an even bigger moron.

    • Praelium

      Excellent post. “Thats how it works.” The Federalist Papers outlines how America works: freedom for all and let the virtuous, Christian and happy audience determine, shape and influence the market of ideas. The opposite was seen in Berkeley, sadly, where vicious, anti-Christian and unhappy protestors forced the market of ideas. God wants His rainbow back.

      • Little Tea Pot

        Milo isn’t a christian figure! This wasn’t an attack against christianity. Milo was planning to reveal the names of students in attempt to get them deported. It is unacceptable and has nothing to do with religious stance.

        • Identitet14

          That’s not true he wasn’t going to reveal their names. However if he would have it is justified as they are illegal immigrants with no right to be in America. Berkeley allowing them to join as students even though they have no right to be within US borders is tatamount to being an accomplice to the invasion of illegal foreigners.

          • Joseph P. Martino

            Someone here illegally is not an “immigrant.” They are an “invader.” Just for the record, my father was an immigrant, my mother’s parents were immigrants, and my wife is an immigrant. They all came in legally.

          • SarahBJones

            Native woman here. You are indeed correct! You are an invader. Please return immediately.

          • gitarfan

            If we go back far enough, you’re an invader constantly warring with other invaders

          • Identitet14

            You lost your land, most of you died before europeans even got there(from diseases). You were in other words weeded out by evolution, now get back in that reservation and shut up.

          • helen

            Refugees not welcome here?

          • Ryan Smith

            So then you know a thing or two about allowing millions of foreigers into your country unopposed, then.

        • MBII

          > Milo was planning to reveal the names of students in attempt to get them deported.

          Source on that? Even if he were doing that, you’re getting upset that he’s reporting a crime.

          • Identitet14

            He wasn’t doing that it is a left wing lie to justify their use of political violence.

          • SarahBJones

            Political violence? You mean property damage…a few broken windows and a burned generator. Heavens to Betsy the sky is falling…bahahaha

          • gekkobear

            You really should check.
            The woman pepper sprayed by a “protester”… I’d call that assault, as would the law.
            Weird you think pepper spray is a non-violent method to handle disagreement.

            And the video of the guy beaten with flagpoles… Also not violent?

            Liberals have decided assault with a weapon is NOT violence? Amazing really
            I guess I have a non-violent response to protesters should they come where i live.

            This is acceptable; right?
            Or is it only “not violence” when your side does this?

          • Harry Chandler

            pay for it SaharaBJones, write the check….

          • Identitet14

            Actually I was reffering to the 6 people who were rushed to the hospital. One of them was beaten several times with wooden and iron poles. Also yes, believe it or not, but vandalism is also disgusting just like your smug comment.

          • Identitet14

            Oh yeah let’s not forget the woman pepper-sprayed by masked cowards when doing an interview.

          • lemieuxmc

            Care to post the location where you keep all of your personal property?
            You know, just in case some Klansmen feel like expressing themselves with a sing a long and marshmallow roast.
            What, not such a groovy idea if it’s your property?

          • Peter

            A woman sprayed with pepper spray. A man beaten unconscious. These are available on videos. If you care.

          • Kala

            Kristalnacht

          • Deplorable Rican ☨ʳᵉᵈᵉᵉᵐᵉᵈ

            Just another hysterical lie from the left

          • TeaPartyPagan

            Actually, it is a moot point, even if it were so. Even illegal aliens have a right to free speech. Unfortunately, if they are stupid enough to draw attention to themselves, they should expect that they will be noticed, and any crimes punished appropriately. It’s kind of like a bank robber announcing he robbed the bank, and expecting it to go unnoticed. They have a right to speak and be heard. That includes in a deportation hearing if they are here illegally.

          • SarahBJones

            Draw attention to themselves? You mean…register in college and get an education and have their names on file with the university? Are you dense?

          • TeaPartyPagan

            Oh, they remembered register for college, but just forgot to register with Immigration and Naturalization? Seems to me if they wanted to go to college, they would have done that first…. just to make it LEGAL, and all….. Shoplifting is illegal, but stealing an education isn’t?

          • Identitet14

            They are not allowed to be in America, them illegally crossing the border constitutes an invasion. To actually registering for education when they are not even allowed to be in the country is not just stupid it’s disrespectful and makes Berkeley an accomplice to the illegal foreign invasion.

            Funny how these records will come in handy for ICE when they start deporting those people home where they belong, it really begets the question who the dense ones really are.

          • chromecommando

            I saw a commentator who had tracked down these claims and it was the very same openly Communist professor in Dexley (?) University who at Christmas wrote that tweet that got into news: ” All I want for Christmas is a white genocide. ” – it is a total fabrication.

            So remember this post and its context. Theses people think it is okay to engage in political violence and attack innocent civilians and destroy property based on a lie fabricated by another person.

            As an academic from another country, I feel ashamed on behalf of these indivividuals and that they consider themselves as part of the realm of intelligencia anymore. I am no particular fan of Milo Yinnapolous myself, but I know of no academic I’ve talked to thinks what happened at U.C. Berkeley was justified.

        • Harry

          I, too, hate when ppl only find merit in things that support their religions but, seriously, where did you hear that?

          • TommyD6of11

            You mean the Religion of Global Warming

          • Harry

            We all have attitudes. What gives them legitimacy is whether or not they can be verified. You, who I take is a global-warming skeptic, no doubt have many counter-arguments that have been proven false from your echo-chambers… sad. You, like your leftist opponents, only believe what you want to believe. Apply skepticism equally as liberally to your narrative-bolstering talking points that you do to what you don’t want to hear..

        • TheDeplorableMiagogo

          Milo was not going to do that.

          By the way, support for enforcement of the law is not “hate speech”. And rioting just because you think someone might enforce the law is ridiculous.

          But keep it up. I like what you’re doing to your party.

          • Me too, beautiful! It reminds me of KRS One’s classic hip-hop song, “Self Destruction”: “Self-Destruction, ya headed for Self-Destruction!”

          • SarahBJones

            The man is an editor at Brietbart – no one is stifling his speech. It’s all over the place. Really? That’s the best you all can come up with?

          • TheDeplorableMiagogo

            No one shut down his speech using violence and intimidation? And a publicly funded university didn’t allow it? Really? Wow.

          • Chris Harmon

            It’s not a Berekely now is it? Because of violent protesters fueled by the hate filled rhetoric of the left.

          • Identitet14

            When he had to evacuate from a campus, his free speech was stifled. Believe it or not, but just because he has other venues to express himself doesn’t mean you can use violence to silence him just because your precious snowflake feelins were hurt.

            You know in my native country(Sweden) leftists also tried to stop free speech with violence. It turned out that left wingers mostly consists of weak teenagers and feeble minded women, so they lost big time. Don’t start a fight you will lose, or you’ll end up like that antifa guy in sacramento that was stabbed with his own knife after attacking a nationalist demonstration.

          • Ryan Smith

            It’s obvious the protestors were trying to stifle his speech, the editorials on this very page brag about it. Sure, Milo has many other ways to get his message out, and sure, a violent protest just drew attention to him, but nobody accused Antifa of being *intelligent*, just violent.

        • Ipsophakto

          BS on a stick. You’re a liar.

        • brian tokarski

          No, he wasn’t. It is unacceptable that you don’t know what you are talking about, and yet come here making false claims and all it does is make even more people ignorant to any of the content of a Milo event.

          • Little Tea Pot

            The college itself warned students about him. Why would they bother doing that if they didn’t have any concern?

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            Because they are criminally complicit? Thanks for the tip!

          • glpage

            Because, like other progressives and assorted fascists, they cannot stand political statements that are contrary to theirs. Nor can they stand political statements that can, and usually do, prove the totalitarian nature of their ideology.

          • brian tokarski

            No, students did, because they bought in to the gossip that people like you spread. You’re the type of person who thinks 2+2=5, aren’t you?

          • Ryan Smith

            Because he’s a conservative and they plainly don’t want him to have an audience.

          • SarahBJones

            He’s an editor at Brietbart….you think he doesn’t have an audience? Seriously. You can do better than that weak sauce.

          • Ryan Smith

            OK, they don’t want him to have an audience…*at Berkeley*. You know, the same reason he was protested?

          • I’m trying to figure out what meaning this is supposed to have. So, a book burning bears no significance regarding free speech so long as some copies of a particular title being burned remain in circulation?

          • lspanker

            The college is full of people who are as closed-minded, immature, and incapable of handling different points of view as the demonstrators, that’s why.

          • Bora Bosna

            “Why would they bother doing that”
            Because they go completely insane over people whom they believe to be whatever-ist.

          • Ron Good

            Re: “Why would they bother doing that if they didn’t have any concern?”

            Yeah, you *should* ask yourself that question–but I’m betting you won’t like the real answer.

        • DCPizzaIsSatan

          WHAAA BAD MAN MAKE ENFORCE LAWS

        • pulse

          Oh snap, really…and Putin hacked the election also…LOL.

        • alwaysamicus

          Doesn’t justify violence; nothing does. Love Trumps Hate, remember?

          • Ryan Smith

            The people chanting that were often violent too.

          • thx1138

            I didn’t realize that Love Trumping Hate would involve all this arson and violence

          • Chris Harmon

            No they were trying to go High as Milo went Low. Those weren’t just b.s. campaign cliches when they thought they were going to win, were they?

          • lemieuxmc

            Well played, SEN5241… well played!

        • Halford Mackinder

          Would you rather they were deported or put in mass graves? Because if they’re not deported soon, they will be killed in a genocide. This is going to happen sadly and it is the left’s fault.

        • pezcleo

          You do know the talk was about cultural appropriation, not immigration.

          • SarahBJones

            Dude was going to wear a headdress. What a racist. Glad it got shut down.

          • Chris Harmon

            That was only to show support for Elizabeth Warren! #alwaysPersist

          • Grave,Regis

            “Of course he provoked it! Look what he was wearing!”

        • Dan

          Not True…you are incorrect and misinformed. He wasn’t going to reveal any names, and NO ONE is deporting students (unless they are convicted violent felons). Your alarmist rhetoric is just simplistic and ignorant.

        • isaacfernertner

          Lies on top of violence. Some anti-fascist you are.

        • Ryan Smith

          Who cares who it was an attack against? As long as the victim was somebody who was merely showing up to speak a few words to people who were willing to hear him, the attack was wrong.

          • SarahBJones

            The “victim” was no one. Violence against Milo didn’t happen. Property damage happened. Check your legal facts.

          • Eric Lucero

            Violence didn’t happen to Milo because he wasn’t there. And the victims were those that were there who were injured by the violence against them. Perhaps it’s you who needs to check their facts.

          • Ryan Smith

            Today I learned assault and arson are victimless crimes. Thanks Sarah!

          • Rene Castro

            How much money does victim-less have to pay to replace windows and generator?

            Could intent be proved?

            Criminal intent is a necessary component of a “conventional” crime and involves a conscious decision on the part of one party to injure or deprive another. It is one of three categories of “mens rea,” the basis for the establishment of guilt in a criminal case.

            Looks like one side was trying to deprive another.

          • realraven2000

            +SarahBJones: *the victim was noone* Like the guy who was hit with a flagpole after lying passed out on the tarmac? Or the woman who got hit in the back from the crowd? The girl getting pepper sprayed in the face?

            Also, property damage doesn’t just “happen”: Malicious thugs destroy things from society so that the rest of us have to pay for the damage. In a just society these hooligans would be arrested and forced to pay for all damages, and apologise to those they injured.

            I would also make sure not to holds their parents accountable because that’s what they are used to. Nobody else should pay the bill then themselves, because that’s what ADULTS do.

          • Chris Harmon

            Sarah you think property damage is a victimless crime? Ah, you hate filled leftists are so cute.

          • Grave,Regis

            Revisionism? So soon?

            My my. The new left’s shameless intellectual dishonesty could make a Holocaust denier blush.

          • Identitet14

            You like to repeat lies, but no 6 people had to be rushed to the hospital, one of them was severely beaten by a among others a berkeley proffessor with iron and wooden poles. Then there was the girl that was maced.

          • brian tokarski

            Lmao you are an idiot….you know that right?

          • Max Blancke

            Clever. “Violence against Milo didn’t happen”. True, he was not among those actually attacked. Also, it is true that property damage happened. It is also true that people who either tried to attend the speech or just happened to be in the wrong place were attacked. There is plenty of video and image evidence.
            Who are you trying to convince that there was no violence? I keep noticing people using that tactic, just denying things that are politically inconvenient, but clearly happened.

            “Actually, there is no such thing as violence against property. There may
            have been individual violence between people. Legally, there was
            “property damage” which is not the same as violence.”
            Violence- behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.

          • chromecommando

            So Sarah B. Jones, I wonder if the man who got beaten into hospital with several bone fractures and another man who is under critical condition and may not survive agree that violence did not happen? I mean you tell me.

            I am not a fan of Milo but you can not claim to be objective or intellectually honest to say that if someone goes to beat up a bunch of someones associates to try to manipulate them, that this is not targeting them. This is the kind of justification the Italian Mafia used to pull off back in the 50’s and 60’s if the citizens did not pay them protection money: ” It would be a shame if something bad would happen to you. ”

            Do you honestly think that was all so innocent? Or would you agree like the rest of the world does that it wasn’t?

            If you are not afraid of Milo like I’m not, if you are secure and confident like I am, then you’d already know you can let him hang himself with his poor ideas and then you can easily win him trough debate of ideas and offering far better ideas. Why, if you think his ideas are so poor, would you feel so insecure that the only response you’d have is violence?

        • DCPizzaIsSatan

          Why do you hate homosexual Jews?

        • clockworkelves

          He was referring the the American Christian public of the 1800s, not Milo Homodegenerate-opolous

        • Milo is a Catholic, and he was going to encourage people to report undocumented people to INS. Which is not, in fact, immoral, unless you think there’s something wrong with the system.

        • Person223

          Deporting illegals is called rule of law. You should look it up.

        • Ipsophakto

          Liar

        • Mark Boursalian

          ”Milo isn’t a christian figure! This wasn’t an attack against christianity. Milo was planning to reveal the names of students in attempt to get them deported. It is unacceptable and has nothing to do with religious stance.”

          There’s ZERO evidence of that. One person said it and it got parroted without any type of evidence.

        • phone2000

          First off he is a Christian and no he was not coming with a list but even if he did there is nothing u can do about it u are not the law…

        • Arpine Mika

          first of all nobody will deport them, and you know that.
          second, this is your moral
          from the fear of deporting you are ready to physically harm others. or
          at least you justify it. where are your morals…

      • Good point but why ruining it by dragging your personal faith into it?

    • Little Tea Pot

      How many times does it need to be said, this is not a violation of free speech. Free speech is not being endangered. The concept of free speech is not being attacked. Everyone can just stop with trying to construct an argument about “you should let him talk because, ya know free speech”. If I own a venue and don’t let you come speak on it, I am not stepping on your free speech. It would be my choice not to have you come, for whatever reason. If I did want to invite you, but enough people spoke up that they didn’t want you and I listened to them, it would still not be a violation of free speech. It would listening to them and changing my decision. This is a case of a college that CHOSE to ALLOW him to come speak and people disagreeing with that choice. If the college hadn’t allowed him in the first place it wouldn’t have been a violation of free speech. And it is still not a violation of free speech just because the college said yes but the people say NO. Letting him call out the names of students to harm them is NOT okay and should not be allowed just for the sake of your concept of free speech. If we know someone is trying to hurt and incite others, no, we don’t have to give them a platform just so we don’t “ruin free speech”.

      Free speech and allowing people platform to hurt others is not the same thing. The college did not listen when everyone used every other acceptable method to protest it. It took doing something that now everyone is criticizing to stop it. That is what it took and nothing less.

      • Lon Mead

        So, when a college allows someone you disagree with to speak (and that’s all this was), it’s okay to cause or to allow others to cause hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage to your community? All because you are afraid of words and ideas?

        • Little Tea Pot

          Having an opinion is vastly different than purposely saying things to cause damage to people. Please explain how not accepting hate speech is equivalent to “being afraid of words and ideas”. The dude was planning to reveal the names of students to get them deported. It’s just not the same thing. My point remains. It would have happened if they didn’t protest. It took the protest to make it stop. But I guess you just care more about property than people’s lives.

          • MBII

            > Having an opinion is vastly different than purposely saying things to cause damage to people
            Like what, exactly????

          • Little Tea Pot

            Getting students from the college deported, or how he previously called out a transgender student in one of his speeches and publicly mocked them, is damage.

          • David Stephenson

            You are a complete moron. There. Are you damaged?

          • lspanker

            Agreed.

          • Harry

            Nobody said he isn’t an a$$hole.. he still has every right to do it.

          • MBII

            > how he previously called out a transgender student in one of his speeches and publicly mocked them
            Remind me how that justifies violence again? BTW, that student was a dude pretending to be a lady but was CLEARLY a dude.

          • brian tokarski

            The only time that Milo mocks people is when they challenge him on one of his views. And how he mocks them is by laying facts on them and making them feel like an idiot. Big difference when you lay ALL of the facts out.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            Oh he publicly called out an out tranny? LOL!

          • pulse

            you are really pathetic dude.I hope you aren’t going into debt getting a degree, because you need to ask for your money back.

          • TP

            I’m sorry that I actually care about people?

          • TheDeplorableMiagogo

            How can you care about people when you justify using violence to shut out speech you don’t like?

          • Dan

            no, you dont. It is a guise of the left that they “care” about people…not true. Socialist government is the largest mass murderer in the last century….violent leftist students actually did real violence, actually attacked people, where is your care for them? are they just collateral damage in your “just” and “right” cause?

          • TheDeplorableMiagogo

            Socialism is for the people, not the Socialist at the top, who never has to suffer the results of it.

          • Mickey

            you dont. you only care about how virtuous you come off yourself.

          • Ryan Smith

            Not enough to object to them being beaten in the street for disagreeing with you, apparently.

          • The ones who are not committing “thought crime” that is, right?

          • Scott Bush

            You care about *some* people

          • Dickbutt

            You dont. You are a typical communist aka you pretend to care about people for so you can virtue signal what good and moral little bugger you are.

            Marx, Engels and Lenin did the same no wonder you like them so much.

          • DamoclesSword

            Public mockery is a great Greek tradition. If done well it hones in on the issue and takes it apart in a peaceful and funny way.

          • Humour is the first thing to go in an authoritarian regime.

          • Busa

            You’re an idiot, without any proof of what you’re saying!

          • Deplorable Rican ☨ʳᵉᵈᵉᵉᵐᵉᵈ

            Apparently you don’t know the difference between words and physical violence. Grow up snowflake

          • Lon Mead

            And you have evidence that Milo was going to do this? Has he done it on any of the other places he’s spoken (you were aware that that this was one stop on a tour, don’t you)?

            And it seems that most of the damage done was AFTER the event was cancelled. What were they protesting then? Several ATM’s were smashed; was that some sort of statement against “hate speech”?

            Face it… You had a protest that you let outsiders turn into a riot. No excuse.

          • As both an Aspie and an East Indian whose family immigrated here 30 years, I think you, “Little Snowflake,” need to grow a pair and stop complaining about alleged hate speech. I have listened to almost all of Milo’s podcasts and speeches, and never once have I felt that he was even remotely hateful.

            Sorry to break it to you, “Little Snowflake,” but criticizing religions, people and/or policies does not constitute hate speech, no matter how much said criticisms might hurt your wittle feewings.

            Moreover, like others have noted, there is no evidence that Milo actually intended to release the names of illegal immigrant students. And even if there were, it would still not be illegal, though being in America illegally — why, that would be quite illegal.

            Capiche?

          • brian tokarski

            See this is free speech. Anyone allowing you to spew the lies that you just said. On that note…Lol no he wasn’t. If you’ve listened to any of his events you would know this.

          • TommyD6of11

            Hey, Little Tea Pot, I am deeply offended, really deeply offended, by YOUR HATE SPEECH.

            Based on you’re logic, I now have the right to physically attack you and your property.

            Since you support violence against people deemed hateful, and I, along with many others, find your speech hateful, please go beat yourself up … and, also destroy some of your personal property.

            I, on the otherhand, defend your right to free speech, despite how hateful your speech may be.

            Humm, does that mean I have to use force to defend you from beating yourself up?

          • TP

            Do tell how I am promoting hate speech and violence?

          • Dan

            Does this even remotely make sense to you??? I don’t like what you are saying. I “heard” and “believe” without any evidence that you plan on harming people during a speech, in some crazy way that will never happen…therefore I am going to shut down your right to speak with violence…what part makes sense snowflake?

          • It’s worse than that. This walking advertisement for birth control is promoting violence in response to a rumour if what would be a legal act if the rumours were true.

          • Mickey

            by saying this is ok, if you condemn violence, condemn all of it.

          • DamoclesSword

            You are telling others what is and what isn’t acceptable as speech. You are telling others under threat of force the words that can or cannot come out of another humans mouth. You are the authoritarian POS!

          • By literally PROMOTING it! You are advocating violence against speech. That’s promotion.
            What are you, athletic scholarship for the 100-meter stupid?

          • Ron Good

            re: “Do tell how I am promoting hate speech and violence?”

            The sadness is you lack the insight to figure that out for yourself.

          • pulse

            If you’ve broken the immigration laws you need to be deported….the law applies to the students of Berkeley just like they do to the poor kids being sent to jail for dealing nickel bags.

          • pezcleo

            The topic of the speech he was giving was about cultural appropriation, not immigration.

          • edavis0780

            Cops in the 90’s argued that NWA’s songs caused damage to them. The FBI even threatened to censor them. Guess you didn’t realize that shit logic could go both ways.

            There’s a reason why we don’t have a hate speech committee or guidelines. Everybody would be calling everyone else’s opinions hate speech.

          • Dan

            He was not planning to do that…you are not smart.

          • DamoclesSword

            You and your Imams do not get to define what is hate speech. You have no proof that he was going to release names and your opinion on
            free speech is childish. Words do not equal violence, they are not the
            same. Saying some thing does not damage anyone physically. It might hurt
            your feelings or go against your morals but it does not cause actual
            bodily harm. Your point does not stand. Please explain how the Idea of labeling hate speech is not being afraid of words and ideas.

          • Mickey

            explain how accepting violence, doesnt condone violence to random people like lgbtq women, blacks, hispanics, asian, whites. youre an idiot.

          • Ryan Smith

            You’re trying to shame folks for ‘not caring about people’s lives’ while you advocate violence. You realize how insane that is, right?

          • g2reason

            First off, I don’t give a crap about the property damage – I care about the people that got assaulted because they wanted to hear a man SPEAK.

            The only thing words can “damage” are your feelings; unless those words are to report a crime???
            A shovel, metal pole or brick on the other hand can kill someone.

            Hurting your feelings is not the same as beating someone unconscious – why do you have such a hard time understanding what a 2 year old knows?

          • UncleMikey515

            Just gonna keep digging that hole, aren’t you?

          • That you consider it “hate speech” is the problem. The left now labels anything it doesn’t like as “hate speech” and then uses that as an excuse to censor and to be violent.

          • lspanker

            Having an opinion is vastly different than purposely saying things to cause damage to people.

            Define “damage”. In your case it seems to mean ideas that you disagree with but can’t refute.

          • Saying things causes you damage?
            How much blood does the word pathetic draw? Brace yourself for “damage” cause you will be hearing it a lot I am sure.

          • Ron Good

            Re: My point remains.

            No, it doesn’t. What remains is your insipid rationalizations.

        • yestradamous

          It’s really amazing, isn’t it. They are going to be in for a world of culture shock when the uni graduates their butts right into the real world.

      • MBII

        > How many times does it need to be said, this is not a violation of free speech
        Repeating a lie doesn’t make it true.

      • KAM

        “If I own a venue….”

        But you don’t. American citizens own it, including those who disagree with you.

        • Little Tea Pot

          Someone still makes the choices in the end, and by having that power to decide who comes and who doesn’t, that person effectively owns the stage. And enough people disagreed with that choice.

          • Lon Mead

            So, the heckler’s veto. Hope you still feel as strongly about it when it happens to you.

          • Harry

            So a person managing a public venue should only allow speeches from ppl they agree with?

          • Little Tea Pot

            I’ve already personally stated that opinions are not the same as threats. I’ve never equated preventing someone speaking because they promote and incite hate, with preventing everyone to speak that I disagree with. But everyone else is since it makes their arguments look more valid. If an opinion promotes hate, it ceases to just be an opinion and is therefore hate speech. I don’t think hate speech should be protected by free speech. Free speech isn’t even a protection that your opinion can and “MUST” be heard, and that’s what everyone gets wrong.

          • Sam McCloud

            You do not HAVE TO Listen.
            What you consider normal speech, I may opine as Hate. That it why we (supreme court) have determined all has a right to be said. Even US Flag burning (which for decades the Left has loved) is protected. It is YOU that are out of Touch.

          • Harry

            Last thing first: Speech “MUST” be heard if a speaker wishes to speak it and an audience wishes to hear it. Nobody has the right to prevent them from speaking, in a public venue, if those two conditions exist. With respect, that is your own failure to understand. Plus, get this straight, I have the right to hate you (I don’t, obviously) so “inciting hate” is not illegal. Labeling speech hate speech and silencing it is, indeed, hindering free speech. As for your first sentence, I’m afraid I mistake your meaning. Who made a threat?

          • Little Tea Pot

            The college itself even made a warning that milo may out students, which is the supreme irony, because it was the students and protestors who were trying to tell the college this all along. Something that every dolt here seems to be ignoring.

            And if you really want to follow that logic, then I believe if that audience still wants to hear Milo, then they can do so at a venue NOT paid for by the public. Just because its a public institution does NOT give everyone the right to speak there. And secondly, I do understand. I understand that free speech does NOT protect harassment and incitement. But please, everyone keep up with the “buttercup just wants to censor opinions and justify violence” shtick.

          • Harry

            If it is true that Berkeley warned that Milo may out students after being told “all along” BY students that Milo may out students, then, obviously, the school was relaying intelligence back to its source. Again, I ask you to link me to evidence that Milo was intending to out students.

            Agreement of the public with a speaker’s message doesn’t preclude their right to speak in a public venue.. never has. Again, what illegal activity is being incited? Your arbitrary labeling something hate-speech doesn’t make it illegal.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            “Just because its a public institution does NOT give everyone the right to speak there.”

            Erm, that’s exactly what it means cupcake.

          • Do you realize that for every illegal alien attending Berkeley a CITIZEN was denied a spot!
            How is that fair?

          • KAM

            “Hate speech” is irrelevant. Because I’m fairly sure that much of what you say would fit your own working definition, if the names were changed.

          • TP

            Please do explain how I am promoting hate.

          • KAM

            Wikipedia: “Hate speech is speech which attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as gender, ethnic origin, religion, race, disability, or sexual orientation.”

            You (above): “…you people…”

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            “I don’t think hate speech should be protected by free speech.”

            That’s why you can’t have nice things cupcake. Because we live in a sane world of free expression, your opinion here is as valuable as your education. And as impotent.

          • That’s why you’re there kid, to learn to think. Hasn’t gone well, has it?

          • TheDeplorableMiagogo

            You have a right to not get bashed in the head by stick-wielding thugs or pepper sprayed in the face for going to a speech. A speech was shut down by fascists (use of violence to squash speech), all the attendees (some violently attacked) had their rights violated along with Milo.

            Hate is violence. Not one attendee, nor does Milo, speak the language of hate and fascism that the rioters so eloquently demonstrated, and that you defend so passionately.

            That’s the way it works.

          • Afghankush

            So you disavow BLM then, right (“what do we want?” – “Dead cops” – “when? “NOW!” or “pigs in a blanket; fry them like bacon…”)? Lol, nope, you sure won’t do that.

          • Hey kid, you’re there to learn you don’t know enough to lecture!

          • KAM

            “Enough people” disagreeing is irrelevant. The first amendment is not limited to situations that have the support of “enough people,” but for all. The person with the power to decide must still to respect the constitution.

            Look, this is not a tough call. Which is fortunate for you. Because out in the real world, your voice wouldn’t stand a chance otherwise.

          • TP

            The person who invited Milo in the first does not have to out of any necessity because of an amendment. I swear to god you people would justify letting Hitler speak because of the amendments.

          • TheDeplorableMiagogo

            Are you equating Milo to Hitler now? LOL

          • KAM

            Hitler is dead, Godwin’s law, not so much.

            You do know that the Klan–detestable as they are–were ruled to be protected, yes? Again, you can argue against constitutional precedent, but this is not a hard question.

          • Max Blancke

            The people smashing all the glass because they are angry at the gay Jew are not fighting Fascism. It was not true when it happened in 1938, and it is not true now.

          • BINGO! You poor thing. That’s EXACTLY what we are saying. It Stalin, or even someone as hateful and divisive as Obama.

          • Chris Harmon

            You think the amendments are only for some people and not others?

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            Might is right? You sure you wanna go there snowflake?

          • deniselb

            No. The university has a policy of allowing student groups to invite whom they want. He was invited. People wished to hear him.

          • Yes, the school owns the stage, NOT ANY SUBGROUP OF STUDENTS.

          • Palutena’s Servant

            They not only disagreed. They also kept someone from speaking who was no real threat to anyone.

      • IAintHappy

        Uh, yeah, it is a violation of free speech, especially the violence and the rioting, which is decidedly not “free speech” BTW. You’re twisted and headed in a very evil direction in life, sad to say.

      • RU_Serious

        Cal is a public university and thus bound by the 1st Amendment. Go to a private school, then you can discriminate to your heart’s desire.

      • James Cliff

        What’s your definition of “hate speech”?
        What specifically is “Milo Yiannopoulos” saying that’s considered “hate speech”?

        • Lin H.

          We’ll never know, exactly, because he was prevented from saying it and the people who came were prevented from hearing it. At a public institution. Shameful!

      • R V

        You’re fundamentally wrong. This was a major violation of free speech precisely because people apriori defined Milo’s speech as ‘hate speech’ and then actively shut created a violent atmosphere to shut it down. That s is the very definition of anti-free speech. Now they are trying to rationalize it.

        Those who committed violence, broke windows, burned property, will be caught and do serious jail time for their crimes.

        • Anders

          As I understand it, Milo is a full blown racist and sexist, lashing out against Islam and ridiculing rape survivors – according to the Guardian (does not get more mainstream than that). That certainly meets my definition of hate speech. But the way to fight it is with facts and debate. Unless of course he is advocating violence or slandering individuals, that is where freedom of speech ends. I find it egregious when some feminists call men rapists just because rapists are usually men, partly because of how we define it. It is equally egregious to slander Moslems for the actions of a few individuals. In fact, just like this incident creates unwarranted sympathy for a rape apologist, his outbursts about Moslems and Trumps ridiculously racist travel bans create unwarranted and dangerous sympathy for the extremist organisations whose characterisations about the us as imoerialist and racist all of a sudden seem credible.

          Trump is obviously a narcissist with little respect for facts. Engage him in fair debate, and he will out himself as such. Mass protests only works in his favour.

      • TheDeplorableMiagogo

        “The concept of free speech is not being attacked.”

        Why did Milo have to be evacuated?

        • Harry

          Because he was in danger of being attacked for his speech…

          • TheDeplorableMiagogo

            Because people WERE being attacked for attending his speech.

            But the left won’t call those hate crimes.

          • Harry

            No, the left calls them love crimes therefore okay..

      • Ratfink

        Little tea pot, how about using a little bit of brains.

        “If I own a venue and don’t let you come speak on it, I am not stepping on your free speech.”

        -Nice, only problem is that the University is a PUBLIC INSTITUTION and not owned by YOU or your snowflake protestors. Also protesting is not RIOTING. There’s a difference lil dummy.

        • Little Tea Pot

          Where did I say I owned the place lol. Just because it is a public institution, doesn’t mean that everyone has the right to speak their either. Someone ultimately decides who and who doesn’t come, and therefor the power lies with them, not the public.

          • pezcleo

            A group who had every right to invite a speaker of their choose in fact invited Milo to speak. Why should you have a veto of that? Can the College Republican cancel a liberal speaker via violence? If not why not?

          • anonprof

            The administration is an agent of the state. They may not censor speech on the basis of content anymore than a police officer can give you a ticket for a bumpersticker on your car.

          • Ratfink

            TP (I suppose it now stands for toilet paper):

            “Someone ultimately decides who and who doesn’t come, and therefor the power lies with them, not the public.”

            Exactly, you fool. He was given already the go-ahead to speak and was going to before he was shut down by you and your snowflake morons.

          • Their, there and they’re are DIFFERENT WORDS kid

      • Matt from Olympia

        So, if I feel threatened by your speech (and believe me, I DO feel threatened by the way you are thinking), by your logic I am entitled to kill you. In “self-defense.”

        Do you realize how utterly, totally, brain-dead stupid you are?

        I hope Trump strips your school of all federal funding. No education would clearly be better than the “education” you have received!

      • bargogx1

        That’s a lot of words to justify the unjustifiable. Shutting down free speech under the threat of violence is a violation of free speech, no matter how many words you use to justify it.

      • ImTheNana

        > If I own a venue and don’t let you come speak on it, I am not stepping on your free speech.

        If YOU own a venue, you would be correct. But you don’t own it. Neither do the violent protesters.

      • DCPizzaIsSatan

        Apart from being vastly VASTLY ignorant about basic rights, you are advocating without a shred of irony violating KLAN LAWS. KLAN LAWS is what you are currently against. Let that sink in snowflake. You’re pathetic.

      • pulse

        you are an idiot..the city of Berkeley and the Chancellor of Berkeley both conspired to create a situation where violence could occur,and violence was permitted ..giving them the excuse they needed to stiffle free speech.We have some idiot professor now mouthing some ridiculous tinfoil hat conspiracy theory about the black bloc are minions of Milo..the University of Berkeley is starting to look like morons in the nation’s eyes, and the people won’t give a rat’s butt if Trump defunds them..

      • DCPizzaIsSatan

        Can you point me to where in our legal code we define “hate speech”? I can’t seem to find it. Can you?

      • glpage

        Unfortunately for your argument UCB is a publicly supported institution. Just like they are not allowed to favor one religion over another, for example, displaying the nativity at Christmas (although they do tend to give preferential treatment to Muslims contrary to the law), they cannot ban speech that they do not like. You claim you find what Milo says is hurtful. Well, your desire to stomp on peoples freedom is equally hurtful.

        You, and others, mentioned that Milo was going to name certain students; that is false. Then again, I bet you have never protested when the press or politicians pass out the names, addresses, and phone numbers of people who legally possess firearms. Or the names of people who contribute to some political campaign to support a position you don’t agree with. There is no difference between what you claim Milo was going to do and what progressives have done. But, it appears you believe it is okay to put those with whom you disagree in what could be a dangerous position, but you get bent out of shape when it might, but not likely will, happen to someone with him you agree. There is a term for that but the left in this country refuses to use it properly.

      • cadcam

        This is a public university and so those constitutional rights to free speech apply. Not the same as a private institution.

      • Dan

        Who owns the venue genius? Last I checked Cal is a public university and as a person who has done something you have not (paid taxes for 35 years in CA) I actually own the venue…along with all Californians. Who are you, or the chancellors to shut down free speech at my building?

      • pezcleo

        Repeating a lie doesn’t make it true. Free speech was suppressed with violence.

      • That Won Guy

        Yea thats all well and good when you hold the reigns of power… but when this gets turned on you for someone you want to hear you’ll be singing a different tune. Those students where a few more fires away from Nazis on Kristallnacht and this type of protest deserves the publics’ utter most contempt. We will never know what Milo was going to say that night and their actions only show that they are afraid of words and ideas. You and yours should be ashamed of yourselves for condoning this oppressive and barbaric behavior.

      • Ryan Smith

        There are progressive articles all over the place specifically and explicitly declaring that free speech has gone too far in the U.S., needs to be curtailed, and that a bunch of freely spoken things should be restricted and are, in fact ‘violence’ somehow. Yes, free speech is under attack. It would take you a 30 second Google search to confirm this, and I’m sure some of the people attacking it are from Berkeley.

      • antipc

        Whatever you choose to call it, a mans god given right was denied by a violent group of angry, uninformed bigots.

        BTW, the diversity lighting in the background was a nice touch when you’re highlighting intolerance.

      • g2reason

        “Letting him call out the names of students to harm them is NOT okay..”
        Talking does not harm INNOCENT people – beating them unconscious with a shovel does. See the difference?
        Not to mention that Milo has never “outed” illegal immigrants in the past and had no intention of doing it at Berkeley… but that’s besides the point.

        “If I own a venue…”
        You don’t own this venue, it’s a public venue – that is why it MUST allow people to speak. It must comply with the 1st amendment.

        Bottom line, you don’t get to silence people with violence because you don’t like what they say – period. That is exactly what Hitler’s Brownshirts did; it is what Mussolini’s Blackshirts did; and now, it is what you did…. Congrats!
        The world watched, your side is irreparably damaged, Milo’s book shot up to number one, and Milo’s event will be rescheduled with thousands showing up to defend the 1st amendment- good job.

        PS – the FBI has the identity of at least one of your fascist blackshirts; you better hope he does not talk. Than again, he is probably facing at least 30 years for terrorism, assault with a deadly weapon, attempted murder and/or any number of crimes; so I bet he is singing right now.

      • What if you invite someone to deliver a speech at your venue, but then cancel it because of bomb threats? Would you not say that those making the threats ate stifling speech?

      • DCPizzaIsSatan

        YOU’RE GOING TO JAIL CUPCAKE FOR INCITING POLITCAL VIOLENCE! GET THAT THROUGH YOUR STUPID LITTLE HEAD!

      • Terry O’reilly

        That’s the most asinine rhetoric I’ve ever heard in my life. So by your logic, if a group of conservatives showed up to your house, on a PUBLIC street, to keep you confined because they don’t agree with you walking around, it’s not false imprisonment, it’s simply a majority of people that have spoken and agreed that you don’t deserve to be in public! It’s NOT a violation of your rights. And since when did ILLEGAL aliens have ANY rights in this country? Try that in any other country on this planet; hell, try it in middle eastern countries and you’ll find a bullet in your head or a sword to your neck. But hey, you guys keeps this up…you’re to blame for the republican majority in just about every facet of government in this country, it’s how sane people fight back. And I’m not even a republican, definitely not a democrat.

      • James W.

        if you deny someone the right to speak, or deny a group the right to assemble, then you are violating their rights under the first amendment of the constitution.

        yes you have a right to protest

        You DO NOT have any right to stop someone from speaking. no matter who it is
        You DO NOT have any right to assault anyone who wants to go hear someone speak.
        You DO NOT have a right to smash windows, loot a business not set anything on fire because you dont like a speaker

        and if you want to live in a country where you are told what to think and say try north korea, china or some mid east countries

      • Scott Bush

        It’s not a free speech issue yet the property, the facilities are publicly owned. M’kay

      • Palutena’s Servant

        In what way was Milo going to hurt anyone? Feelings? Well, grow a back bone and get over it.

        I want to see this source where Milo was going to name people “to be deported”.

      • TeaPartyPagan

        You might have a case if you owned the venue, but last I checked, the Berkley campus was owned by the people of California… ALL of the people of California. If they can pay to rent the venue, there is no excuse for not letting them. Protest all you like; I will applaud you, but peaceful protest never includes assault and battery, and property destruction. When it does, it appropriately called a “riot”.

      • lspanker

        How many times does it need to be said, this is not a violation of free speech.

        How many times does it need to be said, we don’t believe a word you say?

    • WeAreScrewed

      The problem is that they feel they can’t prove what is being said is actually evil or bad and they fear that their desires won’t get fulfilled if to many people hear and buy into the alternative viewpoint. They essentially are doing this as a last resort because they can’t win in an open debate. Which is a common scenario in leftist revolutions throughout history.

      • brian tokarski

        I think what is happening is a flip of the political morality. Olden times the right was the moral ones and the left were the slave owning idiots. Then it flipped, the right were a bunch of douchers and the left became the side in which fights for the freedoms of everyone. Now I think what is going on is its starting to flip again. The left is becoming this big time censorship brigade and the right, the opposite. Its really weird how it just flips like that over time, but I guess its like one side takes it way too far and the other checks it. Maybe I’m not making sense, sorry, its making sense in my head and I’m kind of just ranting lol

        • WeAreScrewed

          There is truth to that. It’s a bit more complex in reality, but generally still correct.

          • brian tokarski

            Yea, I mean I could be a bit more detailed in explaining it, but its not hard to understand what I’m saying I think.

          • Trump – shut off federal funds to any college not promoting and defending free speech!

            That is how to get the college administration’s attention.

          • WeAreScrewed

            The Democrats should love this because that is the exact tactic they’ve used when they believe that other civil rights have been infringed upon by a university.

          • crydiego

            Shut off use of federally backed student loans at these schools, that’s the a-bomb!

        • IMadeItInSF

          The democrats continued as the party of slavery by making Jim Crow
          Laws, and then when that had run their course they shifted to using welfare and other entitlements to keep their blacks on the plantation and in bondage. The model flipped from slaves or sharecroppers working for scraps to welfare recipients not working, but their work product then became their reliably voting for the democrats and democrat party which showers them with a continuing disabling narrative of victimhood, constant reinforcement of hopelessness and the just barely enough welfare to exist, certainly never enough of what’s necessary to ever get out of this newest form of slavery. The Democrats treat the black community they have captured not as people, but some sort of pets. It’s a very sad situation, but the Dems will fight to the death to keep their blacks from ever accessing the true conditions necessary to elevate themselves, because those newly successful blacks would abandon the Democrat party after learning the real truth of their condition under Democrat care these past 50 or so years.

          • Charlie Victor Alpha

            Nailed it. The short version I’ve been saying for a decade is, “The Dem’s traded iron chains for economic chains”.

          • Andy

            IMade… Very well said sir

          • Jmiller38

            Well said. The truth hurts. The Dem party has always been the party of real oppression. They rely on a steady supply off people in poverty to sustain the elitism at the top.

        • yestradamous

          It makes sense to me. It’s always amazing to me how the left and right basically are 50/50 in number of members in the country. It goes out of balance, it’s brought back in balance, over and over. But that happens because what the sides stand for changes so much to make that happen. It’s like supply and demand of stupidity, or something.

        • Andy

          When did the Rights flip? The Left had recent ideals such as the KKK, Jim Crow laws, Governor Wallace blocking entry of blacks to school, fire hosing blacks. Why do you think MLK was a republican?
          IMO, the right is for everyone, the government being the referee. Work hard, stay in school, don’t do drugs or get pregnant before marriage…all conservative things that studies show actually improves a person’s chances of success.

      • phoenix86

        It was also used by the Nazi’s in the early days of their movement.

      • How biased lol.

    • SarahBJones

      Actually, there is no such thing as violence against property. There may have been individual violence between people. Legally, there was “property damage” which is not the same as violence.

      And when you have more sympathy with a few broken windows and a burned up generator than with the fact that the New Hitler Youth oops I mean White Nationalist Alt-Right Youth recruiter was coming to speak on campus on the first day of Black History Month, in the Martin Luther King Building, then you’re deluding yourself.

      To top it off, the man is an editor at flipping Breitbart. He is not having his “free speech” stifled by any stretch of the imagination. For goodness’ sake, get yourself together.

      • brian tokarski

        They were running around pepper spraying and committing acts of violence from the people trying too attend. Also, I dunno how many times Milo has to come out and say he isn’t a white nationalist and isn’t a part of the alt-right, but its becoming pretty annoying coming up and even replying to people like you that have no clue as to what you are talking about. For goodness’ sake, get yourself together. Or at least get the facts before trying to tell someone else to get their crap together. Lmao

        • Lin H.

          “I dunno how many times Milo has to come out and say he isn’t a white nationalist and isn’t a part of the alt-right , . . . ”

          Even if he were, he would still have the right to speak at that venue.

      • brian tokarski

        Here watch these:

        Come back and let me know if you need to examine more facts before coming on here trying to tell someone else about your fake news and alternative facts.

      • Identitet14

        Funny how you call a gay jewish guy who only dates black men the new hitler youth(shows how insane you are). Also again, you are wrong about no violence, 6 people were rushed to the hospital, one beaten by a berkely proffessor and his fellow thugs wielding wood and iron poles. Then there was the girl who was maced while doing an interview.

        Breitbart is actually not white nationalist, you’d know if you actually visited the website, but ofcourse that would take an open mind and a thick skin, neither of which you have.

      • karen straughan

        Gay, ethnically Jewish Catholic guy who dates black men: “Literally Hitler.”

        And his oftentimes “partner in crime”? A half-Pakistani Breitbart journalist named Allum Bokhari, who shall henceforth be known as “Literally Goebbels”.

        Both work for a website that is “Literally the New Third Reich”… which employs dozens of Jewish journalists and editors.

        Hmmm….

      • Scot Jenkins

        Are you going to address the pepper spray and flag pole assaults, or just continue to lie and/or hide? You arguments are false. Acknowledge these, or continue to look foolish.

    • Robert Thethird Reich

      I think most people have missed the ramifications of this story…Robert Reich, the Chancellor’s Professor of Public Policy, is actively encouraging violence and defending the mercenary terrorists, Antifa, promoting insane conspiracy theories and should be removed from any and all associations with the university posthaste…

    • John Stewart

      Freedom of speech means the government — in this case, the university — cannot stop speech. I suppose if a private person wants to try and stop and someone from speaking, they can try, but they should be prepared to be arrested for assault, battery, illegal imprisonment, threats etc.

  • Woody Tobias II

    Black bloc ironically named “antifa”. They behave exactly like Hitler’s Brown Shirts. That would make their supporters and excusers like members of the National Socialist German Workers Party.

  • g2reason

    The bat-Shlt crazy, liberal justification for using violence to stop a man from TALKING is unbelievable.

    TALKING is not violent – Beating people over the head with a metal pole is violent. See how simple that is. I don’t care that he made jokes about a Transgender person at one of his talks – TALKING is not violence. Get it through your bat-shlt crazy liberal skull – You don’t get to assault people because you don’t like what they say – you Fu**ing fascist, violent morons.

  • Mr Mackey

    I don’t think Milo or his fans are Nazis, mkay.

    • Friendly Person

      Sure, if your political education comes from a cartoon for teenagers, you would think that

      • Mr Mackey

        Settle down children.

  • Nadesan Permaul

    I suppose that it is often the case that in discussions of certain issues, passions will take over and folks will make arguments that after some reflection they might reconsider. The tenor of on-line discussions, I am told, often invite polemics. But it is a sad commentary on who we are as a nation, that even at a progressive institution like Cal, where students pride themselves on being substantive, we allow ourselves to become ideological. The debate over protest and free speech is a substantive one involving Constitutional issues of both equal protection and due process. But little attention is paid in this dialog regarding that complexity. When I read a quote like “you need the ethical maturity to say, yes, a certain political stance IS right” I worry that we are failing as an institution of learning and ethics. In a democracy, whether we like them or not, all opinions have the right of expression. At the same time, peaceful protest like those recently in Romania can alter the efficacy of both opinions and policy. I wonder if we have the fortitude of those who were part of the Montgomery Bus Boycott, or the citizens of Romania, to use peaceful and lawful conduct to effect change and stand up for our principles? Bullying, no matter where it comes from, is still bullying.

    • DCPizzaIsSatan

      Romania is a great example, thank you. This here, this is insanity. Everyone but the apologists here know this.

  • mk ultra

    I find it curious that the left never attacks Milo over his creepy views on child abuse. I guess that’s the one thing about Milo they don’t find offensive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJhHwspZGcg

    • Friendly Person

      His support of ethnic cleansing is kind of a big distraction, but sure, he is a creep generally

      • mk ultra

        I won’t defend his Zionism but it seems like he’s on your side regarding the ethnic cleansing of Whites. They shouldn’t embrace white identity and them becoming a hated minority is no big deal.

        That leaves my original comment, that the left can’t attack Milo over his views on child abuse because they share them. The relative silence over ‘An Open Secret’ when a similar film about the Catholic church won an oscar that same year and the fact that Bryan Singer is still making x-men movies speaks volumes. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/05/hollywood-s-pedophilia-epidemic-exposed-in-an-open-secret.html

  • DCPizzaIsSatan

    Antifa is very brave. Until they get punched in the face and cry to the cops. Just look at this.

    https://youtu.be/ESoMOpeK3Y8

  • DCPizzaIsSatan

    Watch out! He come Antifa, with neat notes from their moms and juice boxes.

    Study: 9 In 10 Antifa Protesters Still Living In Mom’s Basement
    http://www.dailywire.com/news/13248/study-9-10-antifa-protesters-still-living-moms-aaron-bandler

  • DCPizzaIsSatan

    231 of you (http://www.patdollard.com/full-list-of-names-ages-and-cities-of-residence-of-antifa-trash-arrested-for-rioting-at-inauguration/) await federal felony riot charges, 10 years, $250k each. All of their phones were confiscated. All contacts, social media, everything taken. Luke Khun, notorious pedophile arrested in DC last nights. He’s one of your leaders. Micah Rhodes, pedophile, arrested recently in Portland. Another pedophile Antifa leader. Not looking good. Nope. Not good at all.

    • Friendly Person

      The way you write, it’s like you’re sitting on a park bench yelling this at a pigeon

      • DCPizzaIsSatan

        Are you gonna come bear mace the pigeons and club them?

  • This is late Roman Republic level stuff.

    When you normalize political violence, don’t be surprised when your opponents view you as fair game.

    • Friendly Person

      Right wingers are already extremely violent, whether the Left provokes them or not. What do you think was going on with Dylann Roof? Andres Breivik? They both insisted at their trial that they are sane men who wanted to kill people. The murderer in Montreal was the same – not provoked. The shooter at a previous Milo event, who shot a nonviolent protester in the stomach, was not assaulted by antifa. If you want to absorb bullets with the power of your nonviolence, good luck with that.

      • John Davies

        You mean the Asian guy who shot some white antifa dweeb in self defense as the violent mob closed in on him?

      • jabuchan08

        Huge difference between a single nut (even if their was a political motivation) and organized political violence to silence your opponents.

      • Tricia

        “shot a nonviolent protester? I thought in Seattle the police didn’t arrest because it was self defense? And that the man shot was antifa?

      • Ryan Smith

        Yeah, I remember all those editorials in respected conservative papers and journals celebrating Dylann Roof and applauding his actions.

        There simply is no comparison. Nobody is going to buy your spin.

      • Kehvan

        What a d-bag… you don’t deserve to live in the US or on this planet.

        • Friendly Person

          Good luck getting rid of me dumbass

          • Kehvan

            It won’t take much… And to be fair, your ilk already started the process of phasing yourselves out of existence, and judging by how your cadré is progressing, it won’t take long.

          • Friendly Person

            Actually communism is doing better than ever in the world today. And guess what, we’re going to take over and provide you with free healthcare whether you like it or not

          • Kehvan

            It’s to see your ilk haven’t given up on their delusions.

          • Sven

            Where is communism being practiced successfully today? Seriously, where? Also, in which countries has communism been put into place in which the revolution hasn’t resulted in millions upon millions of deaths? I mean Russia/China resulted in what…100 million people mass killed or purposefully starved to death.

          • Friendly Person

            100 million people mass killed?! What specific incident are you referring to, and what historian told you that it had happened? Note that Jordan Peterson is a clinical psychologist, not a historian, so he especially should be giving his sources for all allegations.

          • Sven

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes
            Remember, these are just the mass killings, not the total deaths due to force starvation. Dr. Peterson, who as spend a great deal of time studying communism, takes into account deaths that occurred because of mismanagement of resources that led to the starvation of the common worker. I love that you can’t answer a single one of my questions, it’s almost as if you have nothing to back up the insane ideology of communism.

          • Friendly Person

            Wikipedia is not a valid source. Do you believe everything you read on Wikipedia?

            Where is the actual documentation, collected and presented by a historian? Show me the real evidence of any one of these “mass killings,” please.

          • Sven

            Check the footnotes, wikipedia might have one fact wrong, but not a whole article. You want physical evidence now. What do you want me to do? Dig up all the bodies and dump them on your lap? Answer my original questions, or are you incapable because you know so little about communism?

          • Friendly Person

            Many of the citations are to a book called “The Black Book of Communism” which is basically a giant fairy tale to scare kids away from questioning capitalism. Why don’t you make a specific allegation: choose one massacre, and show me that it happened.

          • Sven

            PS: you wanted a historian, so here is a historian:
            http://www.scottmanning.com/content/communist-body-count/
            He estimates 149 million people have been killed because of communism.

          • Friendly Person

            This person does not include any citations for these assertions. Where is Manning’s evidence that these killings took place and that this many people died?

          • Sven

            Well, perhaps you should check the footnotes *rolls eyes*. I mean come on, you asked for a historian, I gave you a historian. Now, answer my original questions.

          • Friendly Person

            I don’t care about your questions. That person has not shown any evidence for the things they assert. If you believe them without seeing evidence for yourself you are a fool. We have direct evidence of all sorts of historical events – proof, such as documents, physical evidence and multiple witness accounts. Where is this for any one of the massacres this “historian” alleges?

          • Sven

            WOW! OK. Ummm really? Talk about sticking your head in the sand. With unlimited technology at your fingertips it is only your own willful ignorance that you are completely unaware of the massive amounts of death communism has caused. What’s next…gonna deny the holocaust?

          • Friendly Person

            Actually, you are the one who is likely to deny that the Holocaust included not only 6 million Jews in the concentration camps, but over 20 million Soviet citizens, many who were Jews and proud communists.

          • Sven

            PS: The source you didn’t like was just one of ……202 different sources.

          • Friendly Person

            Okay, can you pick one to stand behind? Because I’m not going to go one by one through them, but the question is really, which of them do YOU find extremely trustworthy? Which have you even looked at yourself?

    • Tricia

      I think their true goal is to provoke violent overreaction from “the state”.

  • the tolerant left shows their true colors as well as exposing their traditional fondness for political violence to suppress dissent

    • Friendly Person

      Considering that right wing lunatics commit mass murder on a regular basis, it is not suppressing dissent but protecting communities. The masses see this, and that’s why they like antifa protesters.

      • please show me evidence of right wing brownshirts throwing molotov cocktails and engaging in political violence to suppress political opponents? oh wait that was the leftists at uc berkeley last week

  • mk ultra

    The way that the left embraces violence against their political enemies leaves me with little doubt that they support mass immigration because they consider it a weapon against White people. So if I don’t want to become a hated minority in every country on the planet, I’m being violent and my words deserve to be met by violence. Got it.

    • Friendly Person

      You were already a violent person. Your life is built on centuries of violence, and massive violence in other countries. readsettlers.org

      • mk ultra

        LOL

        • Friendly Person

          readsettlers.org

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            Muh book

  • Friendly Person

    well done collecting this thoughtful group of articles. the hive of fascism in this comments section is typical of reactionaries who have nothing better to do than run their mouths. antifa expect cowardly attacks from neo nazis and police both. these groups do not have a base in the masses and cannot sustain themselves.

    • DCPizzaIsSatan

      Your hobo army of pedophile meth heads? Luke Khun?

      • Friendly Person

        Pedophile meth heads? I didn’t know we could count on the support of the Catholic church

        • DCPizzaIsSatan

          Luke Khun, apprehended last night by DC Metro? Ring any bells? Micah Rhodes, diddles little boys in Portland, arrested recently? They you. Your leaders. Pedophiles! Own it buddy.

    • roccolore

      You Democrats are the fascists and Neo-Nazis who hate free speech and make excuses for rioting.

      • Friendly Person

        You sound like you’re trying to convince yourself, not me.

        • roccolore

          Name one time Republicans ever rioted and prevented a pro-Islamist, anti-Jewish, pro-Communist, or pro-Mexico activist from speaking.

          • Friendly Person

            They can’t pull off riots usually because they don’t have mass support. There are plenty of police riots. But they prefer assassination because they’re usually lone losers. ie Malcolm X

          • iMarcusCicero

            Keep pushing Friendly. It isn’t going to end well for you and your masked cowards.

          • Friendly Person

            Wow, strong argument. You should use exclamation marks next time and I’ll feel even more intimidated.

          • Booyeah

            “they don’t have mass support.”

            Apparently you never viewed the election results.

            “they prefer assassination because they’re usually lone losers”

            Yes, that’s an accurate portrayal of the leftist fascists.

          • Friendly Person

            The bourgeois election is not an indicator of “mass support.” Many people didn’t vote, and Trump got fewer voters than Romney previously.

          • Booyeah

            Just as Hillary got fewer voters than Obama previously. So that point is invalid.

        • DCPizzaIsSatan

          Cool story bro. Anyway, I’m out Craig. C u in your safe hidden off the grid safe space that no one knows about!

    • Booyeah

      You sound like you’re trying to convince yourself.

    • testing 123

    • Congratulations, for you are a true nutcase, as are the overly coddled, spoiled brats who compiled this pitiful drivel. As someone who works for a real publisher — one that draws in over a million viewers per day — I highly recommend that you delusional safe-space babies either seek therapy immediately or relinquish your dreams of ever writing professional commentary, i.e., the type that millions actually read and take seriously. Because I suspect that even The Huffington Post would not accept this sort of inanity (though I could admittedly be wrong on that point).

    • we’re not the ones suppressing free speech by means of political violence and intimidation. if you ask me, you look like the brownshirt here.

      • Friendly Person

        Actually, this is suppression of ethnic cleansing. If you read carefully, you’ll see that historically, fighting racists is the best way to fight racists.

        • Willie

          “Ethnic cleansing”? Milo was just one man!

        • advocating the enforcement of existing federal immigration law is not racism. you make this seem like this is the warsaw ghetto or something

          • Friendly Person

            Since I don’t want the Warsaw Ghetto to be re-created in America, I support acting now instead of later

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            You’ve acted. Ready for the consequences? Remember, Ian Dabney Miller thought he could run like a coward to Brooklyn, but we knew that. We kinda know things.

        • Tricia

          Ethnic cleansing? Where did that come from?

        • DCPizzaIsSatan

          Fighting Fascists. New codeword for jerking in mom’s basement to the Darkweb.

    • DCPizzaIsSatan

      Thoughts on GPS? I think location services are overrated. Cell tower triangulation is the way to go, dontcha think? I tots do! I just wish there was a way to disable the mics for off phones — too risky! SAD!

    • DCPizzaIsSatan
    • DCPizzaIsSatan

      Remember, I’m just a simple nobody who knows nothing. That’s me, Buddy!

      https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/829347762655338496

      Should I keep going Buddy? Like I said, I could be much more direct.

    • DCPizzaIsSatan

      For reals I’m done. Make sure to spread the word with your buds about what I told you!

      CUSOON!!!!!!!!!

  • DCPizzaIsSatan

    We know of at least one civil suit being brought against various actors here. I don’t know the status of criminal charges yet. I will say, this is a breathtaking confession. Not only will the “next time” be a catastrophe on the street now that violence has been ordained, the catastrophe in the court room will be even greater for more people. I’m not sure the endgame here, apart from the utter and complete implosion of several well-known institutions and entire ideologies. Interesting times.

    • Friendly Person

      I think the complete implosion of right wing ideology is a noble goal in itself, and fairly inevitable

      • DCPizzaIsSatan

        Good for you, you may be correct, but the implosion is self-inflicted by the left and directed entirely at itself. Do you not see this?

        • Friendly Person

          Actually, the memberships of most prominent left wing groups (not talking about the Democratic Party) in America have at least doubled in the last couple months.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            That’s adorable.

          • S4T

            That’s great. What, are radical leftists actually going to agree to form a viable voting bloc? You all hate each of the competing leftist ideologies as bad as you hate conservatives. And anyone in the middle is joining team Trump.

            You are creating the conditions that lead to the irrelevancy of the left. Keep it up.

          • Friendly Person

            Interesting that you talk about blocs in bourgeois elections as “relevant”, as if bourgeois voters had any real control in any recent elections

  • g2reason

    Milo is going back to Berkeley in a month – we will show the punks in black what ” violence as self defense” is.

    • Friendly Person

      What is the exact date of the return trip?

      • DCPizzaIsSatan

        Dat u Craig?

      • g2reason

        Not scheduled yet.

        • Friendly Person

          Either he is a coward or the antifa are more powerful than detractors will admit.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            Brave, brave Antifa. Blocks an ambulance with a critically ill patient. Gets caught, but not before:

            “The leader of the protest, Norman Clement, 66, was found by state police
            after running away from the scene. Clement knocked over several of his
            fellow protesters in an effort to get away before resisting arrest,
            forcing police to use pepper spray on him. He is facing several charges,
            including inciting a riot.”

            http://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-new-haven-protest-arrests-0206-20170205-story.html

          • Friendly Person

            Are we in a contest? Should I be linking articles about brutal cops arrested for domestic violence &c? Nobody cares about your frothing attempts at relevancy. The one “fact” I did ask you to back up, you couldn’t.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            Nah you should reconsider your life though?

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            I dunno I posted two facts about your pedo leaders and I get crickets.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            Last I checked the cops didn’t riot, loot, and beat people in Berkeley a few nights ago, which is what you’re defending. But sure, deflection is cool too.

          • g2reason

            No, just have to prepare. He want’s thousands to march through campus this time. You will have plenty of people willing to reciprocate violence this time. Bet the blackshirt, fascist antifa won’t show.

          • Friendly Person

            Okay, I’ll bet $2000 that your hordes of lunatics will not show up, but there will be massive police presence instead. I also win if Milo does not schedule an event within two months. Deal?

          • g2reason

            I’m not driving the train guy.
            What exactly would be a “hoard”? 1000, 2000, 3000?????
            It will probably be in the next 2 months according to Milo’s statement.
            I’m sure there will be massive police. I’m also sure the fascist blackshirts won’t dare show up, but I really hope they do – because I’m absolutely certain that groups will show up ready to defend people (and that’s why I know the punk blackshirts won’t show up) – if they do, I bet you $2,000 that they are polite.

          • Friendly Person

            If Milo tries to come back, and he won’t, I think you might get 10-12 of you fascists, and probably 300 police in riot gear to start. So is there a way for me to privately message you so we can put up the money?

          • g2reason

            No, because for one thing I agree. They are probably not going to show up (that’s how cowards operate). If they do, it will probably only be a few and they will be polite standing behind the police for protection I’m sure.

            Will Milo go back to Berkeley – Yes, positive of that. Will it be in 2 months IDK for sure, could be 3 – the University will delay as long as possible I’m sure.

            I only use this account for a specific purpose, so no – you can’t message me. I’m also sure that you will have at least 2000 (minimum) show up to defend the 1st amendment.

          • ED

            like you ever had $2000 all at once….

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            HAHAHA. Should I have a look and verify your funds?

    • Identitet14

      Bring: pepper spray, flagpoles and soda bottles(glass bottles that you can throw). If they start to agitate/get aggressive, attack them immediately with full force.

      In street fights it is usually the less aggressive party that will run. In Sweden this worked for nationalists even when they were outnumbered 5-1.

  • Elsie

    One thing no one seems to get is, the left has had its turn. It has had its way for many years and has thumbed its nose at the rules. Anyone thinks they can waltz in to the country and get full benefits that so many people worked their whole lives to pay for. NO-its not your right. You are not a citizen no matter how much you pretend to be. You are not even supposed to get a vote and yet you did. Try doing that in Canada or any other country. You will not get a chance. It does not matter how much you march around or hit people. You can call people names and belittle them but that does not make you an American.
    Now its the right’s turn to try and straighten things out, it will happen whether you like it or not. You might as well leave voluntarily or you might get dragged off crying and screaming!

    • Friendly Person

      The right has been in power for centuries Elsie. Do you think Obama was a leftist? He and Trump are the same. Anyway, the right has no real popular support so they are going nowhere.

  • g2reason

    The lack of logic here is insane.

  • sven holmes

    bravo Dailycal, we’re reaching levels of ‘tolerance’ that shouldn’t even be possible

  • Douglas Bonham

    The Antifas, the group that did the rioting Wednesday night, did not fare too well in Anaheim and Sacramento last year. The difference was, their targets, the Klan and the Traditional Workers Party, came prepared and cut them up real bad with combat knives. Dozens of Antifas went to the hospital with extremity wounds, as the Klan and Trad Workers had evidently trained to avoid life threatening abdominal, chest, back, and head and neck wounds. Just as at Berkeley, the cops just looked on. But no charges were filed against the Klan or Trad Workers. Self defense. Cops looked bad, just like Berkeley. Antifas went to the hospital.

    The incredibly irresponsible editorials and opinion here will soon be rewarded with visits of groups like the Klan and Trad Workers. In the Sixties the Hells Angels and other biker gangs were notorious for showing up at campus protests and beating up and even knifing anarchist mobs. They killed a guy at Altamont. You espouse violence, and this is absolutely guaranteed to come to you. Even some Berkeley students may arm themselves and fight back – next time. And the next time , you may be assured that the cops will be swinging their nightsticks, using their Tasers and tear gas, and firing rubber bullets – at you, if you’re in the area to see the show. It is not a show. But you will learn, the very hard way.

    When Brown and the Regents and the general public become aware of your opinions here, it will not go well for you. You are guaranteeing vindictive budget cuts to the University, and many humanities and social science and PC administration are going to be out of a job, forever. And when you finally get done with your education, if employers find out you went to Berkeley and participated, condoned, and encouraged, you too will have incredible difficulty in ever earning enough to pay off your student loans.

    So you say you’ll pay any price. You’ll soon find out.

    • winston smith

      There’s nothing like effective resistance to bring out the far-right blowhards. What this guy leaves out is that the fascists were routed form both Anaheim and Sacramento. Sure, some antifa suffered injury, but it’s a risk they’re willing to take to deny a platform to fascists, which they accomplished in both cases. Nazis like to talk tough, but they turn and run pretty fast.

      • Douglas Bonham

        No, they weren’t routed at all. That’s a total lie. The Klan and the right-wingers cut up the Antifas, and then continued the rallies. They weren’t charged by the police, and went on their way. The Antifas’ defeat, and the Klan’s and Trad Workers message, received lots of publicity. Your leader Yvette was arrested, and rightly so, but somehow she managed to escape, through ineffective prosecution. Not next time.

        Next time, the cops will have to do their job, and Antifas will have busted heads and be in jail. And you will attract attention of groups like the Klan and Trad Workers and Hells Angels, and they will come to fight you as they did in the 60s. You will meet some real street fighters, and it will not end well for you at all. You’re going to be infiltrated by the FBI and DHS and busted, and your funding is going to dry up. Have a great day.

        • winston smith

          Here’s video if anyone’s curious about what actually happened at these racist’s rallies.

          Anaheim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS-GJKvAEeU (warning, violence)
          Notice the SUV filled with KKK members speeding away at 1:25

          Sacramento:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqg6uoDefPQ (more violence)
          Note the Nazis spending the entire video retreating and then leaving in a sedan

          It seems the guy above me believes in the unshakable glory of the white race, so it’s hard for him to see the white supremacists were clearly run off in both cases.

          • g2reason

            Hummmm…. 7 Fascist antifa stabbed in Sacramento. 5 fascist antifa stabbed in Anaheim by the KKK inbreds. Yep, I would say the antifa fascists got their buts kicked.

            Lets see what happens at the next KKK inbreeding convention. Doubt the fascists antifa will show. That’s how cowards operate, no lone women to attack – they don’t show.

          • Jan Scott

            Violent protest is driving millions of Democrats out of the party into the hands of something else. So thank you for your collective political suicide. Historians will see this as a key moment of the death of Democrats as a political force.

          • wigglesworth

            retreating to end the confrontation so they dont actually kill someone is cowardly? that called being a responsible citizen. how sad that the KKK/WP were the responsible ones in that situation. the law lets you fight in self defense, but it also requires you to remove yourself from the situation if you get the chance. anybody that has any real world experience knows this

            the KKK is literally more responsible than college ‘educated’ emotionally stunted children. think about that. the KKK was the party of responsible citizens that day…

          • Harry

            Look man, the KKK is outrageous and I believe that these displays are on par with Westboro Baptist Church’s BS.. I’m not even sure what they’re trying to achieve. You don’t seriously believe that a significant part of the population agrees with their madness, do you? You can try to force false-equivalencies of these very few extremists (that, I agree, unfortunately exist) with people you disagree with but it will be to no productive end..

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            LOL all I saw was anitfa getting shanked!

          • Easyst17

            So because white supremacists lost, starting a street war against people who believe in personal freedoms is winning strategy? This is why the illiberal left is a pariah of modern society.

      • All you are doing is validating the belief of Trump voters that they made the right decision, and you are _also_ driving away anyone who is not a raving lunatic like yourself.

        You, and those like you, will guarantee the re-election Trump in 2020 by the very actions you claim are effective.

        • MarvLS1

          We did make the right decision, and we don’t need you leftist morons to validate that decision.

          • Harry

            Woa woa woa… Let’s not confuse right decision (dare I say that is debatable) with obtained an optimal outcome..

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            Felony riot is the right decision? 10 years in federal prison is also the right decision!

        • Ryan Smith

          The Left didn’t turn violent last week. This was inevitable- you were going to lose an election sooner or later.

        • Koolibog

          …Get used to it… he controls your life now…

          • Harry

            Cite examples of fascism from Trump’s presidency besides, “he’s a Republican.”

          • Koolibog

            I can’t. None there. MAGA!

          • Harry

            Haha.. sorry… friendly fire :D

      • Jan Scott

        You really think a bunch of brats sucking on the teet of their parents can successfully wage war against Americans with 255 million guns? These protesters are all doomed to live their lives as impoverished low rank criminals. They may have had a chance to have meaningful lives but their minds were poisoned by articles like this that turn them into a kind a drug addict that feeds on violence and delusions of grandeur. California used to lead the world. Now it’s a step above Libya.

        • plasmacutter

          Correction: it’s now 310 million. Obama and his radical agenda were excellent as moving gun sales. There were entire seasons in which sales were up 500%

      • MBII

        What exactly are you resisting you nutcase? Free speech?

      • Rurik

        I am confused are you calling the Antifa Fascist? Because there behavior and actions match is pretty much by the book fascism.

        • wigglesworth

          Antifa means Anti First Amendment. dont let anyone tell you otherwise

      • Newspeaktogo

        Brain washed useful idiot.

      • wigglesworth

        good job consolidating KKK/nazis to work together to fight against college kids. its YOUR behavior of calling everyone a racist that normalized the term. now that the word means nothing, nobody is afraid to come out and show their true colors. thats why people like richard spencer get so much time in the spotlight. you spent so much time complaining about a nonexistent issue, that someone made it their issue, and came out to fill in the other side

        regardless, antifa, KKK, Neo-nazi, if you need to resort to violence and mob rule to get your point across, you never had a point, you had an emotional meltdown and nothing more.

      • Harry

        Don’t think that these LARPing revolutionaries are denying anyone a platform. Effective resistance, you say? Like causing Milo’s book to shoot up to #3 on Amazon’s best-seller list? lmao… I believe what you meant to say is that there is nothing like a group of far-left blowhards to bring out far-right blowhards. Both so dogmatically embrace their ideologies and have a lust for violence. I just sucks for y’all that the right is better at it..

        • Lon Mead

          Not to mention that Milo has already rescheduled his speech at Berkeley.

      • William Whipple

        Nice getting those buzz words in your talking point.. let’s see Fascists..check.. Nazis..oh that will be a good one.. You must be having a slow day because your forgot the libtard codeword racist.

        The destruction of the Democratic Party has been so fun to watch..

        Just remember Trump is your “Daddy” for the next 4 years, so carry on.

      • bargogx1

        “deny a platform”

        That tells me everything I need to know.

      • DCPizzaIsSatan

        Hey Winston, look behind you.

      • KiteFlyer89

        “effective resistance”

        The impact of antifa was to get Milo more book sales and Facebook likes.

        • deanosor

          They did what they trying to do. Stop him from speaking at UC Berkeley. Who cares about Facebook likes.

          • KiteFlyer89

            “Who cares about Facebook likes”

            Milo Yiannopoulos, the guy who got a lot of them.

      • SylvieFeatherfoot

        The only fascists were the thugs who smashed people and property in order to silence those with whom they disagree.

        With typically Orwellian logic, they call violence speech and speech violence, as you call fascists anti-fascist and an (admittedly provocative) gadfly a fascist.

        Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition (Merriam Webster)

        I acknowledge that many on the right exalt the nation; however, many of us so-called rightist-leaners (I lean libertarian, personally) exalt the individual over both nation and race. Those of your stripe exalt race over individuality, promote a centralized autocratic government with a dictatorial leader (Obama, and no, I didn’t vote for either him or President Trump), agitate for ever-increasing economic and social dicta imposed by the government, and forcibly silence opposition.

        That really does make you all the actual fascists.

        • deanosor

          You’re mixing ideas together. I doubt a many of the anti-fa considered Obama their leader or for that matter promote a centralized government. A lot of them are left leaning anarchists.

          • SylvieFeatherfoot

            If they are anarchists (and not all anarchists are violent thugs), then they should, in perfect justice be met with armed individual (i.e., non-state) resistance. Since anarchists believe in no law but individual responsibility, they can have no philosophical objection to being shot dead by those they seek to injure.

            One of these “anarchist” thugs was on the University staff. Someone posted names of two other “antifa” thugs, which I Googled – one was an online defender of pedophilia, the other was a parolee currently charged with statutory rape of one girl and one boy.

            I would bet that most of the goobledygook-writing contributors posting here in support of the idiotic notion that “your speech is non-protected violence, my violence is protected speech” supported former President Obama.

    • Friendly Person

      “…you too will have incredible difficulty in ever earning enough to pay off your student loans.” As if this isn’t true even if you behave yourself like a good boy. This crap is a great example of projecting your fears and insecurities onto others. The college students “risking their futures” are the ones who want a chance at a future. Not the other way around.

      • DCPizzaIsSatan

        Craig’s tough. He lives off the grid. He don’t need no student loans.

      • DeplorableInIN

        92% of the Antifa protesters in Europe are still living at home with mommy and daddy. I’m sure it’s the same in Kalifornia.

        • *redacted*

          Have you seen the cost of living in europe… lol of course they do :)

      • Uh, as an East Indian American and man with high-functioning autism who managed to obtain a pretty decent future (good salary, great career), I can assure you that these kids have a great future ahead of them assuming they drop the attitude, stop with the whining and grow the heck up.

    • FactChecker

      “When Brown and the Regents and the general public become aware of your opinions here, it will not go well for you.” This sounds like you are trying to limit their free speech, their right to express their opinions in an op ed or an editorial. This sounds like you are suggesting that expressing these ideas will put them at risk of recrimination and even violence. This sounds like you are threatening these authors for expressing their views. So who is the enemy of free speech?

      • SylvieFeatherfoot

        Warning someone of potential consequences of speech versus physical violence to shut it down. Yeah, it’s obviously the former which is the threat.

        Get a clue.

      • I’d like to draw your attention to the method used to “limit their speech”
        On the one hand we have the opeds suggesting and condoning violence (physical destruction of property and beating people up)
        On the other hand we have this guy, who’s writing a comment on the internet (which isn’t even hurtful, but mostly filled with warnings)

        Equating violent action to ‘violent’ speech is a very dangerous path

        • Iron Mike Houston

          I think it is being done at UC Berkeley. Milo’s speech was worse than violence so violence is justified by the snowflakes.

          Property was damaged in the riot and I wonder why those businesses should be punished because Milo was going to exercise his right of free speech.

        • wigglesworth

          its the liberal way!®

      • Maniate

        You can use your freedom of speech to demand that others be silent but nobody is going to applaud you for it. People don’t like a hypocrite.

      • Ryan Smith

        >This sounds like you are trying to limit their free speech

        Quite the opposite. I’m pleased as punch that they said these things, I hope they say them again, and I hope everybody in the country reads these words. I’d let every single one of these people give a speech at the next super bowl if I could. Revealing how dangerous and violent the left has become is very important to me.

      • bargogx1

        No, it’s not their speech, but what their speech reveals about them, which is that they condone violence to stifle the free speech of others, and therefore may be prone to such violence themselves.

      • DCPizzaIsSatan

        Nah, in fact we’re laughing at your tacit admission of guilt! Why are you guys so stupid?

  • Alex

    The ENTIRE Daily Cal staff needs to go, this is pathetic crap.

  • 1776

    What a bunch of Nazis.

  • maplebob23

    An interesting collection of fascists you’ve collected here.

  • Douglas Cassell

    This ideal that anyone who disagree with you means that they don’t think your life matters shows how irrational the left has become.

    • akriekos

      Typifying targeted harassment and action against trans or undocumented students isn’t a “disagreement”. Those are specific actions and we can only wonder your naked motivations to paint them as something less or harmless.

      • g2reason

        Making a joke about a transgender person during a TALK is not violence – Beating a man unconscious with shovels is violence.

        Can you see the difference, my reality challenged comrade? The two things are not equivalent.

  • WeAreScrewed

    So when you believe that violence is justified, does that only apply to your side? Are your opponents supposed to just sit back and let you beat them unconscious? Do you really think they are not going to retaliate? You may think that if they retaliate that you’ll be able to spin that somehow to your favor, but just remember this, the blood of those from your side that actually (not metaphorically like many of your arguments are based upon) gets spilled will be due to a reaction to actions that you advocated for. Think about that for a second. The people you claim to be fighting for, could very well end up suffering more because of your desire for violence. That is a common moral dilemma for revolutionaries, so beware of what you wish for. How many eggs are you willing to break to make your omelet?

    • Nunya Beeswax

      See, what you’re forgetting is that they’re Right. And when you’re Right, your actions (however underhanded) are hallowed by your sacred goal. The end literally justifies the means, and any number of wrongs are made right because they were committed in the name of the Workers’ Paradise, or Social Justice, or whatever the cause-du-jour is.

      Or so the argument goes, anyway.

      • WeAreScrewed

        Yep, that’s pretty much what Mao convinced people of. I just think you have to make it clear to the true believers spouting this nonsense what the gory details of their chosen ideology actually entails. Use their own words to explain back to them what they’re not hearing when they speak them.

        • winston smith

          Living in the US, one can pretend that these ‘gory details’ are still only a hypothetical result of revolutionary struggle, that the ‘actual blood’ has not yet been spilled. But the militant protesters at Berkeley, along with those around the world who have lived under the heel of American military and economic power, already understand the full reality of opposing that power; you don’t need to warn them. They’re well educated on the history of right-wing death squads, extrajudicial killings, and paramilitary groups; which, by the way, have existed regardless of the presence of violent opposition. You and other commenters who hurry to justify retributive right wing violence ignore the fact that that violence already exists, and has existed, and is something that those who truly want to end it are not afraid of.

          • ronno

            ahahahahahahaha

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            LOL you’re about to be legally, brutally culled, you know that right? Keep raging bro!

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            HEY BUDDY! Jeff Sessions is giving out FREE HELICOPTER RIDES! Wanna come? That’s not really a question.

      • Friendly Person

        At a certain point, you need the ethical maturity to say, yes, a certain political stance IS right. For most of us, that ethical stance is against racism, sexism and other kinds of bigotry. If you don’t take an ethical stance at some point, you will just be useless your whole life.

        • Nunya Beeswax

          It is a mark of greater ethical maturity to realize that ends don’t justify means.

          • Friendly Person

            I think you might have missed some of the reading above. Actually, violence is well justified against small groups of people who propose ethnic cleansing.

          • Nunya Beeswax

            How so? And how is your conviction that it’s justified any different than some redneck’s conviction that violence against flag-burners is justified?

          • Friendly Person

            Because the imaginary redneck is not acting out of self-preservation, whereas people who fight Nazis and white supremacists are.

          • ED

            Did your mother have any children that *weren’t* brain damaged?

          • Akiva Cohen

            Not so.

            The minute they attempt to put ideas into practice? Sure. But “self preservation” does not arise in response to speech. And again, I’m the guy they want to shove into the oven.

          • ED

            did you even GO to school? Do you have ANY education that didn’t come from a pamphlet passed to you at a grocery store entrance?

            I mean you are really winning the awards today for completely idiotic statements…

        • Nunya Beeswax

          Your opponents believe they’re right too. So you & right-wingers are at loggerheads; are you going to seriously try to convince me that the way you prove the superiority of your opinions is to be the one that hits hardest and oftenest?

          • Friendly Person

            I don’t have any delusion of being able to “convince” you in a Disqus comments section. The reality is that the Left has its base in the masses, which means inevitable victory. If you want to read something convincing on the subject I suggest this manifesto written by Karl Marx like 150 years go.

          • ronno

            yes, the anti white side does tend to win throughout history when it declares war. LOL.

          • Nunya Beeswax

            If Marx is so convincing, then why has every attempt to put his program into practice failed?

            His critique of capitalism is very convincing, and for the most part on the mark. His belief in the inevitability of the Workers’ Paradise strikes me as Christian eschatology minus Christ, which is rather quaint.

          • Friendly Person

            Actually, there are billions of Communists doing quite well today. A better question would be, if Marx is so convincing, why do capitalist idiots insist on pushing the contradictions to their breaking points instead of cooperating to wind down capitalism worldwide? It would save a lot of suffering.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            Cuz Bannon is your new Daddy? Just lay back and try to enjoy the next eight years.

          • Nunya Beeswax

            I suspect for the same reason that high-placed Party officials in the USSR, China, and elsewhere saw opportunities to enrich themselves and took them. St Augustine was right; human nature is depraved.

          • Friendly Person

            It sounds like you are completely uninformed on history and have been uncritically swallowing capitalist propaganda your whole life. Your extremely tiresome theory about human nature is typically the beginning of justification for mass extermination.

          • Nunya Beeswax

            And there goes the friendliness. Next time you trot out the phrase “extremely tiresome” I suggest adding “and very weak.” You could try concluding your next response with “SAD!”

          • ED

            You actually typed: “..there are billions of Communists doing quite well today….”

            OK, you must be either too young to remember what happened during the Cold War in which case your school teachers are a bunch of failures….

            Or you win the prize for the dumbest person ever to type on Disqus…

            `…billions of communists doing quite well today`?! Billions living in communist systems have a life-style you want to emulate and have here for yourself?!

            I mean if you think you should have an equal say in anything adult related with that level of stupidity and ignorance, then we are all —-ed because you, sir are an utter and complete brain dead _____.

            “Billions of communists are doing quite well…”, eh?

            Holy ____

          • Identitet14

            “billions of Communists”.

            First of all you should spell communists with a small “c”, second of all there are no billions of people in communist countries. Don’t you remember that you lost the cold war?

            Because you did, BIG TIME.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            >Actually, there are billions of Communists doing quite well today.

            You aren’t one of them.

        • Ryan Smith

          Of course, anybody who’s been paying attention knows that the left has used twisted rhetoric to call absolutely anything they don’t like ‘racism, sexism, or other kinds of bigotry’. You can’t enforce border security, wear a halloween costume, or eat a goddamned taco anymore without a leftist calling you racist over it. So to defend violence as ‘standing against racism’ when you define racism as ‘everything that displeases me’ means it’s not an ethical stand at all. It’s just violence. .

      • Tricia

        And they even belong to a group called By Any Means Necessary (BAMN).

    • DCPizzaIsSatan

      Total violence is the end goal. The Maoists dumped their professors bodies into the river first.

      • Friendly Person

        Citation needed.

        • DCPizzaIsSatan

          LOL

          • Friendly Person

            LOL, I don’t believe your random statement based on some email your grandma sent you.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            YOU DON’T BELIEVE ME! OH NOES! HEY EVERYONE, THIS GUY DOESN’T BELIEVE ME? I’M UTTERLY CRUSHED! LOL

          • Friendly Person

            You are clearly not able to back up your bizarre claim about Maoist history and you resort to extremely unfunny capital letters as a distraction.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            And NOW I’m UNFUNNY? AND MY CAPS DON’T AMUSE? This is getting to me.

        • Ryan Smith

          You appear to have an internet connection.

    • Friendly Person

      Right wingers are already super violent against nonviolent people, as Dylann Roof, Andres Breivik &c prove. Do you think the KKK only attacked black people who were belligerent? No, they terrorized all black people of all social standing.

      The ideology of the extreme right is centered on the ideal of racial purity. This is an inherently violent ideology. The ideology seeks to exterminate or possibly “expel” (still requiring massive violence) entire classes of people. Therefore it does not care if the Left defends itself or not, it will proceed violently either way.

      Does that make sense?

      • WeAreScrewed

        You are a fool if you think this is targeted only at the likes of the KKK or neo-Nazis. This is targeted at anyone who doesn’t fall in lock step with modern leftist ideology. INCLUDING some on the left like liberals who are promoting non-violence and trying to protect freedom of speech (the idiot that wrote the article even specifically described that situation). You are completely disingenuous if you think citing anecdotal evidence of attacks by your supposed enemies is justification for using violence against other random people you see on the street just because they are wearing a red hat or holding an American flag. If you can’t see the difference in those situations, then there is no hope of convincing you of anything. You are just a weak minded individual that is incapable of doing anything other than stepping on the gas when you’re already near top speed and heading off a cliff.

        • Friendly Person

          If you think liberals are on the left, or even constitute the masses, you are completely ignorant of reality. Anyway, the antifa have done a good job only punching Nazis so far, so I’m inclined to trust them.

          • WeAreScrewed

            Everything you just said is false. But anyway, have fun with your comrades and remember:

            1) the actual “masses” tried to reason with you
            and
            2) not to cry when it goes so terribly, terribly wrong for you and yours

          • ronno

            the fact that he thinks 100 trans studies majors smashing starbucks windows proves the “masses” are on their side is the best

          • Ryan Smith

            Yeah but it’s ok because that Starbucks was probably owned by Nazis or something.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            I see what u did there Craig.

      • SylvieFeatherfoot

        No, it does not. I am considered quite right-wing by my progressive friends. I do not advocate forced segregation, let alone extermination or expulsion. All of good-will, all willing to work, are welcome.

        I do not advocate violence, except in self-defense. That is, against a clear and present physical threat. Violence because someone else’s differing opinion annoys one is not in this category. Attacking people who have not offered one violence, personally and imminently, is not “defense,” it is criminal battery.

      • ED

        You typed: “Does that make sense?”

        Um, no you tool, nothing you have typed on here so far has made any sense.

        You are a walking, talking, typing joke.

        Stop with the cliche’s and terms you read in a book once but never clearly understood. You are the worst kind of low information low-life…. One who thinks he knows everything…

        Live another 20 years and get back to us, snowflake

      • Ryan Smith

        Yeah I remember when Fox News and National Review put out editorials talking about how great Dylann Roof was. Remember that?

        There is no comparison. No comparison at all. Your ability to morally equivocate and declare ‘both sides do it’ died the day you embraced and celebrated your violent fringe.

      • DCPizzaIsSatan

        Put. Down. The. Glass. Dik.

  • Mr Mackey

    I hope you try to hit a MMA fighter the next time and end up paralyzed in a hospital.

  • Snowflakes; white stuff, none exactly the same + they will melt when it gets too warm.

    This is what has happened in the past and it will happen in the present. When the violent snowflakes start tasting their own medicine they will melt and I have no doubt their preponderance to hit girls and sucker punch people from behind that they learned from Negroes will catch up with them and they will not like the retaliation that follows. At all.

    Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock

    • Friendly Person

      If you recall, snowflakes killed many Nazis https://www.google.com/search?q=frozen+nazis

      • It was the snow of the Russian winter that killed Nazis who sacrificed their lives to oppose Communist Jews not their bases in Antartica as I recall. One point being there are many, many, many very patient men choosing not to respond to the violence with violence.

        Rue the day when they (we) change our minds as it will not be boys and girls on the front line getting maced or punched in the face and hit from behind by those that run away but real grown men that have to once again draw upon their cold hearted killer instincts; men that have been trained to kill and well experienced having had to kill with their bare hands. Men that know what it means to go into battle.

        There is a law of unintended consquences friend. Most of us want to avoid violence. On the other hand there will be a tipping point if the current violence continues and those so-called snowflakes have no idea of what its going to be like when the real thing comes to town.

        Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock.

        • Friendly Person

          Big words, puffed up by hot air. Good luck finding work as a web developer when your pro-Nazi sympathies become well-known.

          • You miss the point; I’ve crossed that chasm already + learned some will, some won’t, so what.

          • Friendly Person

            http://clintongallagher.com/projects/alarmtronics/index.html ahahahaha, just curious are you an example of the high quality of the white race? You are simply too unintelligent to ever put together a mass movement. If you educated yourself enough to become politically relevant you would abandon racism.

          • I was part of the original mass movement, in the 60s. Putting together a so-called mass movement is fighting the last war.

            And you may not realize it yet but racism is the purest, highest form of self expression and honor that is for all races other than Caucasians.

          • Friendly Person

            Your past personal failures and poor grasp of present material conditions does not make race theory correct

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            I grow tired of you.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            Careful with the dox buddy….

  • RonHess

    Anyone who talks about “privilege” the way you do is an anti-white communist intent upon committing genocide against all European-descended peoples and cultures. If you deny this, you are deluded.

    • Friendly Person

      Anyone who talks about “genocide against European-descended peoples” is deluded about the actual material conditions in the modern world, or trying to deceive others

      • RonHess

        Either you don’t understand how genocide actually works, or you’re just another disingenuous anti-white communist trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the dumbed-down masses.

        • Friendly Person

          Considering that white people have all the wealth, weaponry and political power in the United States and are still the great majority population, the idea of an imminent “white genocide” is stupid, from a purely mathematical standpoint. Take a demographics course or something.

          • RonHess

            White people are being systematically discriminated against in the workplace because of anti-white communists like you. Their nations are being overrun with alien peoples causing violence because of anti-white communists like you. But really, you’re just brainwashed useful idiots who mouth the propaganda. It’s the global elites that are engineering this population replacement. America is probably no more than 60% white now, down from 90% in 1965, and that was ON PURPOSE. Feminism, critical race theory, affirmative action, offshoring, big corporations moving people around, it all retards our reproductive rate. It’s happening, it’s real, and you’d have to be an idiot not to notice.

          • Friendly Person

            So what? Even if that were true, why do you care about white people over any other kind of person? They’re not better.

          • RonHess

            They are my people. They are better for me. They are better for each other. Only homogeneous nations work. It’s (((people like you))) who are causing this, with your hateful lies and propaganda. Yeah I can smell you for what you are.

          • Friendly Person

            My family is Catholic lol. I am extremely white, my family owned slaves 200 years ago. I didn’t meet a Jew until I went to college. You are completely bananas. Racism is like alchemy or phrenology, it’s beyond discredited and is basically a running joke. And if you are an example of how supreme the white race is, then the white race is a very sad race.

          • RonHess

            Doesn’t really matter what your background is when you are convinced to go along with the program. We are a sad race indeed when so many of us can be brainwashed to commit collective suicide.

          • Friendly Person

            Actually, your race theories are insane bullshit used to perpetuate conflict between working people. If you realized that your thoughts on race are completely unfounded you would be a lot less stressed out.

          • RonHess

            Race is simply extended family. All sane people who are honest with themselves have a greater affinity for their own people. If you really think people are all the same, I challenge you to dump your wife and children out in the country somewhere and instead adopt some random Somali family. Do it, or you’re a hypocrite.

          • Friendly Person

            If you think race matters, and you have German ancestry, shouldn’t you despise Italians the most, since Rome was always trying to cross the Danube to your homeland?

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            LOL unemployed hobo. U know any working people? Not your mom on the corner.

          • ED

            Well, since my family didn’t come here until the 1900’s and never owned any slaves, doesn’t that make YOU and YOUR FAMILY the problem and not mine?

            If YOUR family owned slaves, they are garbage human beings who looked down on and forced other human beings to be their slaves in order to get richer… Just because you come from racist garbage doesn’t mean that everyone else does…. So don’t project…

            YOUR family is a criminal slave owning stain on humanity, not mine, nor +95% of all white people walking around in the US today.

            Why do you insist on those who had nothing to do with your family’s crime against humanity being forced to apologize make amends for your family’s disgraceful behavior?

            Shouldn`t you be giving someone half of your income for the rest of your life to make amends? Or are you keeping your family tradition alive and expect someone else (us) to do that for you, too?

            Why are you following in your despicable family’s tradition of forcing everyone else to do as you say? Can’t you give humanity a break from the tyranny of your gene pool and do something for yourself for a change?

            You have nothing worth hearing you despicable, slave owning stain on humanity who has carried that mentality over into the 21st century…

            Don’t breed.

          • ED

            why do you care about non-white people over any other kind of person? They’re not better… or are they?

          • ED

            I would argue that this “friendly person” and her friends are actually our greatest enemy…

            People like this will hold us down while our enemies slit our throats because , well you know: fighting back is wrong and because we are white, we deserve it.

            We need to be JUST as concerned about these traitors as any foreign enemy.

            I hope the FBI is all over this.

          • SylvieFeatherfoot

            Tell that to the underemployed Arkansas mechanic, who quit school to help his single mother support his younger brothers and sisters, and now cannot support his own children.

            Tell him he needs to check his privilege, because the hunger-striking doctoral candidate son of a multi-millionaire African-American railroad executive feels aggrieved.

          • Friendly Person

            Your anecdote about a hypothetical person does not make “white genocide” an imminent or even plausible threat, which is what we’re talking about here.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            BTW, still c u!

          • ED

            said the snowflake who thinks there are “billions of communists living quite well”.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            Craig, I’m sorry you didn’t know your dad, and that mom didn’t give enough hugs, but your anger and daddy issues should be resolved with the help of a trained medical professional, not by clubbing Afghan immigrant girls in the streets like the coward you are.

        • ED

          He/She/It is clearly a 20 something snowflake who has said here for the whole world to see:

          “there are “billions of communists in the world living quite well”.

          He/she/it has been surely been coddled with participation prizes, safe spaces, and the warm hugs of it’s former hippy, now-helicopter parents who have completely screwed up their one meaningful task in life; to produce a valuable, productive member of society.

          This waste of skin and the others like it are going to destroy our country.

          I, for one am ready for them when they make their move. I suggest the rest of us do the same.

    • Tricia

      Funny!!!

  • BlackSix

    Then you have no issue with the right defending themselves, specifically violence toward you and your families. Just sayin.

    • winston smith

      Aww, look at Pinochet Jr. trying on his jackboots!

      • g2reason

        The fascists are the ones that assault people to stop a gay Jew from talking.

        • winston smith

          Correction: the anti-fascists are the ones who want to prevent white nationalists from gathering and outing immigrants and trans students.

          And I thought you guys hated identity politics? Why do you keep bringing up this ‘gay jew’ stuff?

          • g2reason

            If you are smashing windows and assaulting people to stop a gay Jew from TALKING – your not fighting fascists, you are the fascist.
            You have any examples of Milo being a white nationalist?
            Making fun of a Trans person is your excuse for beating women with a metal pole? Seriously? Have you ever been to a comedy show?…. you are a fascist blackshirt, no matter if you realize it or not.
            But the best part is – you destroyed and delegitimized your side completely. Milos Book shot up to number one. The event will happen again in a month or two. The police will be forced to do their job and best of all the FBI are in your business. Ian Miller is probably singing names to the FBI right now.

          • MosesZD

            They’re not anti-fascists. They don’t even know what fascism is… Not even the dictionary definition.

          • Sven

            Winston Smith,
            Please define fascism. Clearly our definitions are different. Also, do you identify as an Anarchist? If so, what exactly do you define as an Anarchist? Do anarchists believe in a society where there is no government so each individual is able to act for themselves and do whatever they like? That is my rudimentary understanding, but clearly I am missing something here.

        • Friendly Person

          Why are you so obsessed with identity politics?

          • g2reason

            Why are you such a fascist?
            Why so scared to let someone speak?
            Why do you think violence is okay to silence those that disagree with you?

          • Friendly Person

            It’s okay to silence people who propose ethnic cleansing as a key part of their political program. Like Nazis.

          • roccolore

            You Democrats are Nazis.

          • Friendly Person

            I’m not a Democrat at all, but I agree that bourgeois democracy and fascism are different sides of the same imperialist state.

          • g2reason

            Milo has never proposed anything like ethnic cleansing. Get this through your head: He’s a gay Jew that dates black guys….. And even if he did, violence to silence people for talking is not Okay. It’s what Mussolini’s Blackshirts did; It’s what Hitler’s Brownshirts did – and it’s what your Blackshirt fascists did at Berkeley.
            Anyway, Milo is returning to Berkeley and I bet your blackshirts won’t show this time – they don’t want to confront people that are ready to defend themselves (aka cowards). And this time, there will be thousands of 1st amendment supporters, melitia and veterans ready and willing.

          • Friendly Person

            Milo has specifically picked on individual students and told his idiot followers to harass those individual students. Pretty violent behavior, actually. Good luck assembling your thousands of “melitia” on behalf of a 35 year old twitter celeb

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            LOL its called DHS! You don’t realize you’re already f’d at the Federal level? Fair warning dude, but I honestly thought you were a little smart.

          • Friendly Person

            Wow, you’re so thoughtful, I never would have thought that about you

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            That’s why I’m here buddy. Got your back. Which implies something?

          • Friendly Person

            At this point, since you’ve claimed to be logging off and then continued commenting, the implication is that you’re a lunatic, obsessed with being right on your computer. Good luck with that.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            Oh so you do read my clues? Haha. You don’t like my game? You need more clues? I could be more direct.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            Anyway, it was fun. I really do need to go. Battery is dying. Need to recharge. May not be able to post more until tomorrow. U know what I mean?

          • g2reason

            1. Don’t suppose you have any examples of that?
            2. TALKING is not violence – beating people over the head with a metal pole is violence.

            I could not give half a crap about Milo. It’s fascists, real fascists that silence free speech with violence that I don’t like. Bring your fascist blackshirts to the next one for us! we look forward.

          • Friendly Person
          • g2reason

            “Milo Yiannopoulos Uses Campus Visit to Openly Mock a Transgender Student”
            Let’s look at what he said:
            “…I’ve known some passing trannies, which is to say transgender people who pass as the gender they would like to be considered.”
            He then referred to the photo, which was still onscreen, and said, “Well, no. The way that you know he’s failing is I’d almost still bang him.” The audience laughed.

            That’s it? That is what justifies beating a woman over the head with a metal pole and countless other assaults? seriously, your going to stick with that?

            No, you’re just a fascist that uses a very weak excuse to justify shutting down your political opponents with violence. The world has seen, no one is fooled.

          • Friendly Person

            Maybe you’re just afraid that you’ll be attacked next for your own racist views next. The solution is to abandon racism, because nobody can hold back the tide.

          • g2reason

            I’m not a racist. But you fascist blackshirts throw that term around so much it’s pretty much meaningless anyway – so, you can call me racist if you want. I’ll say what I want, when I want, where I want – and if I need to defend myself, I will; and if I need to defend another persons right to speak, I will. Even if I disagree with them.
            I got news for you, “the tide” is against you. Your propaganda is not fooling anyone. You are the fascists, and the people don’t like your tactics. The assaults at Berkeley cost you more support than 1000 Milo speeches ever could have. His book went to number 1 before it is even available (in other words on back order!).
            It’s all on video. The world sees it, they know what you are. You can’t win with ideas and debate, so you turn to violence; but the sad truth is you can’t win with violence either. You are hopelessly outnumbered and out gunned.

            Prove me wrong? Make sure to bring the blackshirts when Milo returns to campus! We look forward.

          • SylvieFeatherfoot

            Do you instruct your wife (sister, mother, daughter) to abandon her chastity and enthusiastically join in her rapist’s activity, because she can’t stop it?

          • Friendly Person

            You have just equivocated punching Nazis with raping women, by the way. I see a difference, myself.

          • SylvieFeatherfoot

            No I haven’t. Not at all.

            Equivocate: to use unclear language especially to deceive or mislead someone (Merriam-Webster)

            I was perfectly clear.

            What I DID do was offer another example beside your own championed preference of an initiation of violence, by way of exposing the absurdity (as well as the moral repulsiveness) of your saying those who disagree with you should get used to your violence until they agree with you.

            You, most-UNFriendly Person, are unlikely to be viewed by anyone of reason, ethos or taste as someone they want to side with.

            Both your example and my own are morally indefensible, as the initiation of force always is.

          • MBII

            ~~

          • wigglesworth

            im pretty sure i can hold back the tide. im not even white, but children like you are why i left the democrat party. the entire party doesnt even bother to argue with reason and merit. they just go for feelings and emotion

          • bargogx1

            You mean your tide of violence?

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            Muh tide

          • goosegetsloose

            Words are not violence. Grow up. One day when someone enacts actual violence on you the difference will be understood.

          • Friendly Person

            Wow, I am so scared of your threat!

          • goosegetsloose

            It’s not a threat. It’s a warning. Someone will get sick of your actions eventually and they will show you what actual violence is. Then you will go crying to the same “police state” you claim to hate so much asking for them to protect you.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            I know who ur scared of tho.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            Man I miss this good stuff. RICO was awesome! Member this one buddy? https://youtu.be/o8_f3kJOX_8

          • MosesZD

            No he didn’t. This is one of the many lies you and others promote to excuse your behavior. Having seen a few of his debates, he not only condemns that behavior, but he is very polite and won’t even let his crowds shout down other opinions.

            In short, he behaves with class. Something you’re obviously not familiar with.

          • Friendly Person

            You are completely delusional. http://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2016/12/16/breitbart-s-milo-yiannopoulos-doubles-down-harassing-transgender-university-wisconsin-student/214849 He livestreamed this speech to right-wing viewers on Breitbart.com with video of the student’s reaction on a “Trigger Cam”. That is inciting violence against an individual.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            More tears! I demand more delicious sweet sweet tears to drink!

          • Identitet14

            The student publically trashed Milo and Milo simply gave him a verbal trashing back. Someone replying to your hatespeech is not inciting violence against an individual. The only delusional person is you and your compatriots.

          • bargogx1

            No, it isn’t. He said absolutely nothing to incite violence. Not one word.

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            I can’t say for sure, since I have no personal insider info, but I can almost hear some very unusual birds singing even now. These strange, terrified whistles started a few weeks ago near our very own White House! And the birds are so little! So young! I guess there are some things worse than “stiches” for _______? This is all highly speculative I can assure you.

          • BigJimSlade

            I’ve watched TONS of Milo speeches, never seen him do any of the things you suggest.

          • SylvieFeatherfoot

            Not in the U.S., it isn’t. Free speech, as enshrined in the Constitution, is a natural right, one which the Constitution recognizes as above government’s legitimate power to abridge, beyond the bans on yelling “fire” in theatres, or direct and explicit calls to violence.

          • Friendly Person

            The Constitution says NO LAW shall be made restricting freedom of speech, but does not tell us that I can’t silence Nazis.

          • SylvieFeatherfoot

            Yes, it does. You are not permitted, under law, to deprive people of their natural rights, including life (you may not kill them, unless it is to prevent their killing you or another), including free speech (unless that speech is explicitly calling for immediate and directly violent action). You are not permitted to silence anyone – you are permitted not to listen, you are permitted peaceable protest – PEACEABLE ONLY.

            Anything else is the initiation by you of violence, against those who have offered you no direct threat of physical harm, and that is both legally and morally unsound.

          • bargogx1

            What “ethnic cleansing” has Milo proposed?

      • DCPizzaIsSatan

        U sound scared of helicopters bro.

    • Friendly Person

      They do this whether the left is violent or not, as Dylann Roof &c prove.

      • roccolore

        You defend Nidal Hasan and Omar Mateen.

        • Friendly Person

          Why do you think they are Leftists? because everyone on earth is either one or the other?

          • roccolore

            Democrats always make excuses for radical Islam.

          • Friendly Person

            I’m not a Democrat, dummy

          • iMarcusCicero

            Commie, Anarchist, Democrat… All the same.

          • Friendly Person

            Actually, if you read anything written by any communist, or any history book about anything related to communism, you’ll find that you’re completely wrong, at the moment

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            LOL so easy to bait an Antifa — they love to lecture about the three books they’ve read. Tell me about TAZ? Wasn’t that guy into little boys too? Why yes, yes he was. Why is that whenever you kick over a rock, child raping anarchists scurry?

          • Anarchists want to abolish government, just saying.. (making them the direct opposite of Communists)

          • DCPizzaIsSatan

            So far the the uniting factor in Antifa leaders is pedophilia. Luke Khun? Micah Rhodes?

      • chizwoz

        Dylann Roof is not part of any “they”. No-one on the right defended that. Plenty on the Left defend this. False equivalency.

      • MosesZD

        Nobody defended Dylann Roof. Nobody defended Timothy McVeigh. Nobody made excuses for them. OTOH, the “Love Trumps Hate” crowd, full of childish hypocrites, has made excuses for this behavior.

        Here’s a hint — defending this drives people that would otherwise support you away from you. The CIA coined a term for it — blowback. You should look it up.

        • Friendly Person

          Nobody has to make excuses. Roof, Breivik, most recently Bissonnette in Montreal, are all products of the right wing. Your attempts to disassociate yourself from them are transparent to all thinking adults, because you continue with the same hate speech to indoctrinate more mass murderers.

          • wigglesworth

            no, all thinking adults are smart enough to realize there are extremists on both sides, yet its only on the left where we see large groups of people, mostly students, condoning and encouraging violence. but i guess you were too blinded by the antifa facebook group chat to see that

      • bargogx1

        Who was Dylann Roof defending himself against?

  • Solution1776

    Disgusting.

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