A thousand gather peacefully near UC Berkeley campus protesting Ben Shapiro’s talk

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Though the campus had prepared extensively for potential violence, Ben Shapiro’s speaking event at UC Berkeley on Thursday went on largely uninterrupted, drawing a peaceful protest that ended in a short march through Berkeley’s streets.

Shapiro, who was invited to speak by campus group Berkeley College Republicans and was co-sponsored by Young America’s Foundation, spoke at Zellerbach Hall to a crowd of about 700 people. Nearly 50 people gathered near Bancroft Way and Telegraph Avenue about 5 p.m. to protest Shapiro’s appearance, but the crowd soon grew to about 1,000 people by 7 p.m.

“I’m here because I can’t condone people who think that some problems in my culture represent the entire culture,” said campus freshman Simone Muhammad. “I’m here because they’re infringing on my rights as a bisexual and a black woman.”

Both the campus and the city prepared for violent retaliation to Shapiro’s event in various ways, including setting up barricades around and inside campus Thursday morning. AC Transit buses with routes running south of campus via Telegraph Avenue or Bancroft Way were also diverted, and BART trains skipped over the Downtown Berkeley station.

The Alameda County Sheriff’s Office made nine arrests in conjunction with Berkeley Police Department, as of 10:42 p.m.

BPD also received reports of one individual who was injured as a result of a fall, according to Officer Byron White. In a Nixle alert released early Friday morning, BPD confirmed that there were no reported injuries due to violence and no reports of property damage.

Eliciting chants and cheers from the crowd, Shapiro covered a wide range of controversial topics during his talk, from income inequality to the polarization of the country. At one point, in response to Shapiro’s praise of the campus police, the crowd began to chant “U.S.A.” repeatedly.

“Thank you guys for being here, because, of course, braving the idiots outside is not always easy,” Shapiro said. “Their speech is apparently violent because my speech is violent — so all speech is violent.”

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Shapiro specifically mentioned that he is not a member of the “alt-right” — a white nationalist movement — stating that he spent half of his career attacking the “alt-right.” Discussion and debate, Shapiro said, is what America is “all about.”

“Shapiro is very articulate, and he’s a good speaker,” said Celeste Paradise, a Concord resident who attended the protest to support Shapiro. “He’s not just screaming, like some people here.”

Kyle “Based Stickman” Chapman, a Trump supporter who was arrested and sentenced for striking people with a large stick at several Trump rallies last spring, attended the event and asked a question about “racism against whites” during the Q&A portion of the event. Shapiro responded by calling affirmative action a racist policy.

After the event, a crowd of about 200 people, led by local activist group By Any Means Necessary, marched westbound on Durant Avenue toward Shattuck Avenue about 10 p.m. The crowd followed Chapman down the block, yelling, “Fascist scum, get off our streets!” The crowd started to dissipate about half an hour later.

Amber Cummings, organizer of the canceled Aug. 27 “No to Marxism in America” rally who previously sold sticks and shields with Chapman in July, was also present at the protest. She said that although she was not attending the Shapiro event, she came to campus to show her support for free speech.

“I should not have to be afraid to walk down an American street,” Cummings said. “I hate the ‘alt-right,’ I hate Antifa.”

Victoria Berdin, a campus senior society and environment major and chair of CalSERVE, also organized a peaceful sit-in inside Martin Luther King Jr. Student Union to protest the closure of the building for the event. Students participating in the sit-in at the MLK Student Union began gathering about 3 p.m.

About 8:45 p.m., the sit-in protesters were told by officers to leave the building two at a time, but they refused, as they would not be allowed back in the building. Shortly after, protestors exited the building, chanting, “To the students, we love you, we love you, you are beautiful.”

“We are tired of being pushed out of our spaces. We want to be put before the speakers that are coming to our campus,” Berdin said. “It’s not just the fact that this person says horrible things that do impact communities in different ways. … These events are displacing a lot of students.”

The city’s Peace and Justice Commission held a town hall Thursday night in honor of its 30th anniversary, as well as to present a “better alternative” to the Shapiro event. Many local activists attended the event to address issues related to peace and justice, including racial justice, militarization and women’s rights.

Mayor Jesse Arreguín also discussed the upcoming “Free Speech Week,” an event organized by controversial right-wing speaker Milo Yiannopoulos that is scheduled to take place Sept. 24-27. Arreguin, who has previously dissuaded community members from attending “alt-right” rallies, encouraged the community to avoid the events and “not give conservatives the attention and the image that they want.”

“When we have speakers coming to Berkeley … spouting hate, it’s important that we reaffirm the values that the Berkeley community stands for,” Arreguín said. “This is what the (Peace and Justice) commission has done.”

About 11 p.m., police officers created perimeters on the intersection of Durant Avenue and Ellsworth Street to maintain order. By this point, the crowd had mostly dispersed, leaving only a few police officers and BAMN members behind.

“Young people need to stand up for what is right in the world. Change comes about when the new generation fights,” said 77-year-old Berkeley resident and former civil rights activist William Beasley.

Staff writers Sakura Cannestra, Revati Thatte, Jessíca Jiménez, Jenny Weng, Jack Austin, Hannah Piette, Sam Levin, Sydney Fix, Ani Vahradyan, Harini Shyamsundar, Chantelle Lee, Ashley Wong, Malini Ramaiyer and Audrey McNamara contributed to this report.

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  • alcatraz

    I hope Ben Shapiro will take a strong stand on his alma mater’s silencing of Chelsea Manning.

    • FreedomFan

      Chelsea (Bradley) Manning is a traitor to the U.S.
      No wonder why Democrats love her so.

  • Karmann Ghia

    Berkeley built a wall before Trump! ….Congratulations Peoples Republic of Liberal Ignorance – you are officially the laughing stock of the nation

  • Chuck

    Celeste Paradise who they quoted in this article is the girl that was attacked and had to be taken away by ambulance. Nothing is in the news about her. I hope she is ok.

  • Tizzie Lish

    Yeah, Jesse affirmed the Berkeley community values when he shoved jumbo sized pepper spray canisters on all of BPD cops. Pepper spray is now a Berkeley community value, right, Jesse?

    • kennebec123

      You’re lucky to have Mayor Jesse McFascist.

      I’d have authorized M60s on you antifa terrorists.

    • lspanker

      Apparently you believe violence against conservatives is a Berkeley value, one reason you’re so indignant about giving the police the tools to do their jobs and stop such violence…

    • JoseArturoOrnelas

      Pepper spray is for terrorists…
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rIBKEhOxwPU

  • garyfouse

    What about the 9 people arrested?

  • taxpayer22

    9 Antifa terrorists were arrested last night at the Ben Shapiro protest in Berkeley for carrying banned weapons.

  • taxpayer22

    Antifa stands for ANTI – First Amendment , Alt- Left , Fascists… funded by Soros.

    • Tizzie Lish

      Can you cite evidence for your claim that an amorphous group os mostly unidentified protestors are funded by Soros? Not to mention Antifa did not even show up last night (so WTF do you bring them up as if they did — are you trying to spread false stories?). . .

      • taxpayer22

        Woman Arrested at UC Berkeley For Banned Weapon Met With Hillary Clinton…

  • taxpayer22

    FBI, DHS Officially Classify Antifa Activities As “Domestic Terrorist Violence”.

  • taxpayer22

    Antifa Professor ; Antifa Has a Right to Beat Opponents…

    Isaacson argued that Antifa terrorists have a right to beat people they disagree with.

    Mike Isaacson is a professor at John Jay College of criminal justice.

  • mullikim

    ““When we have speakers coming to Berkeley … spouting hate”

    I grew up in San Francisco in the sixties well remember the battles at Berkeley. As to the quote above and the actions of the “antifa” mobs I think it appropriate to quote the celebrated founder of the Free–Speech movemen, Mario Savio: “F••k You!”

    For the sake of intellectual honesty it is past time to correctly identify the antifa thugs, their allies and supporters for what they actually are: Neo–Bolsheviks.

    Bem Shapiro, Orthodox Jew and Fascist? Really? The security that he provoked reminded me of the famous Norman Rockwell picture of the very young black girl, dressed in her best clothes, on her way for her first day at a newly integrated elementary school—escorted by FOUR US Marshals.

    • FreedomFan

      Perfect analogy.

  • FreedomFan

    Yes it’s surprising how peaceful leftists can be when they can’t hide behind masks like cowards.

    • the devil

      The professional agent provocateurs weren’t there, that’s why you didn’t have violence or masked protesters. The $600,000 came from fascist donations, who basically “buy” politics.

      • FreedomFan

        “Fascist donations”? No I doubt that Antifa paid for security from themselves. Other than that, great point.

  • sunsarataylor

    Yesterday’s protests were very important. People raised their voices against white supremacy, misogyny, xenophobia and fascism — and RefuseFascism.org who organized and led the People’s Speak Out put all this in the proper context: the fascist assault on Berkeley is in the service of the Trump/Pence Fascist Regime. We must resist and protest all the various fascist provocateur’s who are coming to Cal because normalizing fasicm here has stakes for the whole country. But most of all we must get organized to drive out the Trump/Pence Regime. It is the character of fascism that it can absorb individual acts of resistance while constantly slamming forward its agenda, eventually clamping down on all dissent/protest and remaking the laws. This is the process we have been living thru for 7 months. On November 4th, we all go into the streets across this country in mass protests that grow, day after day and night after night, refusing to leave until our demand is met: This Nightmare Must End: The Trump/Pence Regime Must Go! Why is this missing from the Daily Cal’s coverage? You all know Refuse Fascism organized this and anchored it all night. Yes, there was great diversity, but this was at the core and embracing it all. Why is it not covered? Why are you hiding this from people when this is what humanity needs? Even Ben Shapiro opened his speech by acknowledging this, holding up RefuseFascism.org’s flyer and reading from it and citing RefuseFascism.

    • FreedomFan

      Leftist protesters smearing the little Jewish intellectual as a “fascist”, “white supremacist”, “nazi”, etc. just made you look foolish in front of the whole world.

      Ben Shapiro’s speech drew almost 100,000 real-time viewers and many more will watch it on youtube. So please keep smearing all decent Conservatives as bigots, leftists. Trump needs re-election.

      • the devil

        Many in the virtual audience came to see what there was to complain about and learned there was plenty. Shapiro is not a “little Jewish intellectual”. He is a big stooge of fascism. You can find a little Jewish intellectual in the library studying for the next exam he will pass.

        • lspanker

          Shapiro is not a “little Jewish intellectual”. He is a big stooge of fascism.

          Sorry, but nobody gave you a free pass to redefine “fascism” as ideas that make you cry…

    • Rollie

      Again with the “fascism”…?

      You’re going to be disappointed if you ever (accidentally) learn what the word really means, because then you’ll have to look for another historical term to misappropriate.

    • JoseArturoOrnelas

      Streetthugs admitting they want to start a coup, a putsch? Yeah, real anteefa…

    • lspanker

      Yesterday’s protests were very important. People raised their voices against white supremacy, misogyny, xenophobia and fascism

      You mean they railed against mostly non-existent bogeymen based on their own personal ignorance, paranoia and hysteria. These fools live in fear of being exposed to ideas that question their fragile and distorted little worldview…

      the Trump/Pence Fascist Regime.

      Another child who wouldn’t know “fascism” if it bit you in the @ss…

    • Tizzie Lish

      I mostly agree with you, sunsarataylor but I don’t see anyone talking about how these right speakers and rallies cost local government and universities tons of money and that is part of the fascist strategy: to drain the resources of those who oppose them while gaining attention, which, sadly, often inflates to being seen as respectable. $600K plus waiving the rental fee for Zellerbach for a state university that can’t meet its financial commitment to students already . . the right protestors, pretending they show up to exercise speech, are very deliberately engaged in a kind of war of depletion.

      • lspanker

        Only in the mind of someone who has been intellectually addled by Political Correctness can those advocating freedom of speech be portrayed as the “fascists”.

      • JoseArturoOrnelas

        The cost is incurred by your idiot behavior. Keep your hands to yourself

  • ronchris

    “I can’t condone people who think that some problems in my culture represent the entire culture” -this person needs a LOT of help with self-awareness…

    • FreedomFan

      Apparently they think that fathers abandoning their children is not a problem.

      • lspanker

        Failure of liberal progressive policies is not a problem in their eyes, but bringing that failure to the attention of others clearly is…

  • ShadrachSmith

    Zero local intellectuals showed up to destroy Ben’s arguments. Why?

    The Cal system of factional tyranny by violence and intimidation is beating a tactical retreat. Last year Janet Napolitano was able to loose hounds. Then Terry McAuliffe followed her example, in Charlottesville. Then when his turn came for the next big street mob, Marty Walsh, Boston’s mayor, said, “Not in my house.” Walsh let the cops seperate the factions, and showed really sophisticated techniques of identifying the cadre leading each of the attacking crowds. Then surgically reaching into the attacking crowd and extracting that person, putting them in a paddy wagon, and when the wagon was full it drove off to the jail, and another of the three paddy wagons waiting in line pulled up to be loaded.

    The cadre didn’t like that, or got arrested, and the antifa protest melted away…easy peasy.

    The local mayor wanted to please Janet, but hey, my lawyers tell me that I’ve got to authorize the Marty Walsh tactics, it’s out of my hands…and the weasel did his job, so did the police, lots of nice overtime and a job well done. 1st amendment rules.

    • the devil

      …later, the antifa were unmasked, released from paddy wagons and went back to their daily lives in Novato, El Cerrito, Albany and other places untouched by their rabble rousing. They were hired by the police to perform counter insurgency.

      • ShadrachSmith

        There is a Scarlett Johansson or Gal Gadot political thriller there. Draft me a storyboard, featuring the glory of climbing the barricades as the vanguard of an oppressed proletariat struggling to be free of their chains, or toilet restrictions, or whatever.

  • roccolore

    Democrats = fascist cowards

    • alwaysthink

      You sound very confused.

      The last thing Democrats want is corporate control of the state which is the definition of fascism. Remember Republican Mitt Romney is the one who insists corporations are people!

      • roccolore

        Democrats are the fascists who riot and loot to prevent people from speaking.

        • ComesATime

          I say they are no more of my party than you are of the alt-right!

      • Larry Chesebro’

        You need to understand a bit better what fascism means:

        “A system of government marked by centralization of
        authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent
        governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and
        typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.”

        In point of fact, the government controls corporations under fascism, not the other way around. When trying to fit facts (and BTW – legal precedent insists that under certain circumstances corporations are treated as individuals, not people exactly – Mr. Romney was talking about the law, not some fascist opinion) to your narrative, try to be a little more informed about something so simple.

        I live in Argentina, where “Peronism” is the most popular political movement, which was named for Juan Domingo Peron who was president in the 40s and again for a little while in the 70s. He studied in Italy under Mussolini in the 30s and was a true fascist in every sense of the word. The last two presidents here were full-on Peronists and let me tell you – it’s easy to see fascism in progress when your eyes are open.

        You people on the left are very good at grabbing words and changing their meaning completely. The biggest is “liberal”. Maybe the next biggest is “fascist”. And the funny thing is, when you look at the definition I provided, it mixes exactly with what people on the Left are doing to stop free speech and institute law by political correctness (that would be dictatorial tendencies), Obama Care and other social programs like welfare that actually tend to trap people in place rather than help them advance in life (stringent government controls) and people like those from Berkeley who think they have to use violence to stop others from speaking (suppression of the opposition) and things like race quotas (Affirmative Acton – racism).

        You guys are pretty much 100% the definition of fascism and yet you think to twist the meaning to include mainstream conservatives (while I might even agree with you if you all were only defining the alt-right that way, who I despise as much as one can despise and remain sane).

        I will argue sensibly with anyone who has respect (NOTICE: not agreement) for what I have to say as well. I will never respect those who try to keep me from saying my piece.

        Particularly not actual fascists who try to control everything.

        • Rowenna

          Thank you for articulating your points so well. You should make comments more often – clearly your experience helps give weight to your commentary.

        • lspanker

          You people on the left are very good at grabbing words and changing their meaning completely.

          Word!

      • Rollie

        You have it backward. Under fascism, corporations do not operate in a free market, but rather under explicit and severe regulation BY the state. (This is one reason why people like Romney and Trump would make poor-performing fascists.) The state itself is self-controlling, fed by a near cult-like subordination to the government by its citizens. Neither good Democrats nor good Republicans support this kind of society, although to the extent that fascists do exist in the U.S., they will be found in the margins of the left.

        • the devil

          Do you not see how fascist the Kochs and DeVos’, etc., are financing hate mongers to promote their agendas?

          • Rollie

            Taking your characterization at face value (agendas, hate-mongering), that still isn’t fascism, despite how glibly you throw around the term. It might surprise you, but the term has a real meaning, and real historical basis, and you simply don’t understand that history.

            For a start, study Mussolini’s Italy, and then tell us how well you think the Kochs would have done in a centralized, choked economy.

          • the devil

            Do you want to add the comma I missed placing where it should be too?

          • lspanker

            It’s still nonsense, with or without the comma.

        • ComesATime

          Well, they need a better name.

      • FreedomFan

        Democrats want a centrally-planned economy, which is the very definition of marxism.

        Conservatives want free markets and free people. We are not concerned about which is your favorite flavor of tyranny.

      • lspanker

        Remember Republican Mitt Romney is the one who insists corporations are people!

        In all likelihood you have no idea that in terms of legal standing, corporations are treated as individuals under the law, and for good reason. Your small mind latches onto concepts you don’t understand and just can’t let go of them…

    • Pietro Gambadilegno

      There are tens of millions of registered Democrats in the United States. There are a few thousand leftist extremists who riot to prevent people from speaking, and most of them are not registered Democrats.

      Given these facts, it is idiotic to say that all Democrats riot to prevent people from speaking.

      • ShadrachSmith

        A radical Muslim will cut your throat,
        A moderate Muslim will only hold your feet.

        • mullikim

          During the Iran hostage crisis we learned that a moderate Muslim would still cut your head off, he just wouldn’t eat you.

      • Rowenna

        Your point that there are only a few thousand leftist extremists who riot to prevent people from speaking is valid… but what do you call those on the left who enable the ‘extremists’ who riot?

        What about those who teach about microaggressions and claim them to be a form of ‘violence’?

        What about the media and politicians who make a point of mislabelling rallies as being ‘white supremacist’ just because they are conservative (despite them having no links to white supremacy and not even being organised by white folks)?

        What about those who participate in SJW campaigns designed to harrass and intimidate individuals… sometimes with the aim of ‘shutting them down’ or getting them fired… and inevitably in the knowledge that some of those who take aim will be threatening violence towards the individual and / or their family including children?

        All of the above are examples of those on the left who are engaging in fascist tactics – their intent being to justify the use of violence against political opposition, to shut down debate and discussion and to encourage self-censorship of what they consider unacceptable viewpoints.

        There are certainly more than a few thousand such people and the problem is they include elected officials and media who have the megaphone to espouse and validate such behaviour.

        • ComesATime

          Media, as a whole aren’t doing this. Don’t exaggerate or you’ll sound just like those extreme leftists who complain of microagressions.

  • alwaysthink

    Look out below! The Alt Right/Russian Trolls are hard at work spewing misdirection, misinformation and some outright lies.

    It looks like the outside invaders from the Alt Right and their COS playing black grabbed thugs retreated with all the police presence. Without their homemade shields and sticks the couldn’t stage a mock battle that they’d blame on “leftists” and students.

    Stay strong, don’t take any bait from these people who only want to create false narratives about Cal.

    PS, to those who will slam this comment, enjoy your vodka, go slurp some borscht. Now go back to Facebook to look for more rubes, the Cal community is to smart to believe your bs.

    • Jacob

      *too

    • the devil

      Now, somebody finally gets it. How about the rest of you. Wake up and stop getting used.

  • Brad Sharp

    You Berkeley students will either be students for life or you will come out into The World and be greeted by Americans. This will not go well for you. You are welcome to leave America–we will somehow survive without you.

  • yobroman

    Does the $600K include paying for “grief counseling” for students impacted by Shapiro’s speech?

    • Brad Sharp

      Provided free of charge by California taxpayers.

  • kennebec123

    It sounds like Mayor McFascist is the leading intolerant, hate-filled bigot in Berkeley The rest are just ignorant, brain-washed leftist children who may or may not grow up some day.

  • bobincinti

    Glad to see Berkeley is home to tolerant people. 200 cops to control a crowd at a speech. Did it burn your ears to hear this? Do you now need your safe space, blankey, and teddy bear to calm down now? What a pathetic town and university. You are the problem folks, not the solution.

  • The only reason it was peaceful was because 200 cops had to be there to maintain the “peace,” you morons can’t even let a 5 foot mainstream conservative speak on campus without the campus going on lockdown with police in full riot gear lined up at every entrance. They had to install concrete barricades temporarily just so crazy students and antifa wouldn’t destroy their own campus! 600k it cost!

    • the devil

      He isn’t a conservative. Shapiro is an authoritarian, taking authority for himself over others.

      • Sure thing, pal.

      • Rowenna

        How is advocating limited government authoritarian?

      • JoseArturoOrnelas

        He is taking authority over his own life and person. He expects the same from others. However your not ready for that.

        • the devil

          No, he’s telling you how to think and be like him while hating and marginalizing others. Go back and listen to him again.

          • lspanker

            If you honestly believe that, it doesn’t say much about your English comprehension skills.

      • lspanker

        Do you actually believe that, or is that merely the nonsense you peddle in lieu of an intelligent argument?

  • lspanker

    ““When we have speakers coming to Berkeley … spouting hate”

    Of course, “hate” is now defined as anything the lefties don’t like to hear but can;t refute in open debate.

    • the devil

      The hate is expressed in more subtle ways, yet determined to separate people; unqualified, taking my seat, from single parent homes, minority, etc., yet colloquial euphemisms meaning non-white. It is, nevertheless, as destructive socially as eugenics, phrenology and other bigotries. Just listen how Shapiro minimalyzes the feeling and values of others, as he speaks of their pleas for equality. It would be the same as saying, “You are intrinsically inferior to me”.

      • JoseArturoOrnelas

        “Haters gonna hate”. That’s an expression that means you can’t really deal with that person, however the problem could just as equally be YOU.

      • lspanker

        YOU minimalize the RIGHTS of others when you seek to silence them because you can’t stand up like a big boy (or girl) and deal with differing ideas as a grown adult.

    • Tizzie Lish

      Yeah, like the conservative speakers coning to Berkeley want to engage in any kind of open debate.

      • lspanker

        They aren’t the ones beating people up for having opposing points of views, despite your ludicrous assertions to the contrary…

      • Mike Pennington

        No, Tizzie, you’re right…conservative speakers coming to Berkeley don’t expect to engage in any kind of open debate. They expect to be baracaded out completely by angry, violent mobs with their ears shut and their mouths open. You’ve made up your minds without engaging in a single discussion or hearing a single speech that conservatives…ANY conservatives…are spouting hate speech. You don’t know what they’re going to say, and by shutting them up before they speak, and calling them haters and every known liberal label there is, you prove that YOU are the haters. That kind of behavior is the very definition of “Bigotry”. You prove that liberalism is a synonym for “hypocricy”. How do you expect to “change society” for the better if the message you’re sending to the people you think need to change is: “Do as I say, not as I do”? How do you think you can persuade a half a nation to view things from your perspective, if you’re calling them things they know aren’t true?! All your actions do is deeply divide and cause hate, (because it’s borne out of hate). You’ve been listening to too many liberal political organizers and not paying enough attention to outcomes and facts. As long as you do that, you’ll only feed the false premise notions you have, and make enemies. Congratulations on a step forward by allowing Ben Shapiro to speak without destroying property and hurting people. Maybe some day you’ll actually go inside and listen without throwing a fit. Maybe YOU will actually come to have an open debate.

        • lspanker

          You’ve made up your minds without engaging in a single discussion or hearing a single speech that conservatives…ANY conservatives…are spouting hate speech. You don’t know what they’re going to say, and by shutting them up before they speak, and calling them haters and every known liberal label there is, you prove that YOU are the haters. That kind of behavior is the very definition of “Bigotry”.

          Worth repeating…

  • JoseArturoOrnelas

    Celeste Paradise, quoted above, was assaulted in front of the Bancroft Walgreens by members of anti-speech crowd at around 9:30pm. Her pro-Shapiro sign was ripped from her hands and as she attempted to retrieve it she was thrown to the ground by two men.

    • BerkPed

      are you spreading fake rumors?
      were you a witness?

      so far, the only claims in print about this have been debunked by the police, including this fake one

      https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/09/psychotic-antifa-allegedly-stabs-woman-for-holding-a-sign/

      Read about it here
      https://twitter.com/berkeleypolice
      Berkeley Police‏Verified account @berkeleypolice 1h1 hour ago
      Replying to @berkeleypolice

      She fell and wasn’t pushed. No fight. That is what she told us at the scene. These are the actual facts.

      • JoseArturoOrnelas

        I’m the one standing next to her on the Walgreens window.

        • Jon Thor

          … If this is true, then you can answer my question. You’re my only lead to knowing if this is “CELESTE PARADISE” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPS9fCypaEM

          Is this the Real Celeste Paradise or a Fake Look-a-like? And if you know more, I would like to make a blog about this in the near future.

          Update : Also; I need to know where the Photo Sources are. There are no Photo Sources from Before-Time. I hit a Dead-End on this “Investigation” of mine, the only lead is that video, the Livestream, and Photos that are not posted of her before she fell down; only after. Photo Proof is needed..

    • Jon Thor

      I looked you up. You are telling the truth. But I still need more leads.. there’s SO little information if she’s telling the truth or not. We need more witnesses who were there to prove that someone helped her get knocked down. At least 10-30 and they have to be real. Get me those contacts and this will be solid..

      • JoseArturoOrnelas

        Interesting, 20 odd witnesses in a crowd glad to see us hurt?

        • Jon Thor

          I’m just asking. Those 20 witnesses need to speak out. The issue isn’t that I do not believe you, the issue is the witnesses are not consulting or speaking out. Their evidence is needed. Else.. all of this could be a lie. I want to be sure this is real.

          • JoseArturoOrnelas

            Ok, no need for bandwagons. What of A15, or
            the N8 offensive?