‘It’s Okay to be White’ posters found at UC Berkeley

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Posters that read “It’s Okay to be White” were found at various locations on the UC Berkeley campus Friday.

Berkeley resident and campus alumnus Sean Rouse first posted pictures Friday on Twitter of the posters found near South Hall and the Campanile. According to UCPD spokesperson Sgt. Sabrina Reich, posters were reported at several other locations and halls on campus, including Sproul Plaza, University Drive and Campanile Way.

The posters do not constitute as a hate crime because they do not target any specific group and because there was no criminal act committed, according to Reich. Only campus rules prohibiting posters on UC Berkeley structures or natural features such as trees were violated, Reich added.

An anonymous 4chan user posted an image of himself holding up an “It’s Okay to Be White” sign Friday. In the post, the user alleged that he had “blitzed the (UC Berkeley) campus” with the signs, including light poles, car windshields and “the ethnic student center.”

These slogans have also appeared on other college campuses recently. As reported by the Washington Post, “It’s Okay to be White” signs and stickers have appeared at universities including Harvard University, Princeton University and Tulane University.

Anticom, which describes itself as the “right-wing counter to Antifa” in its Twitter profile, linked on Twitter to a Hatreon page supporting the “original anons” who started the campaign. According to the Hatreon page, the goal is to raise enough money to create a large “It’s Okay to Be White” banner to display in a public place.

UCPD is asking anyone who discovers additional flyers or has any information on those responsible to notify them.

Contact Elise Ulwelling at [email protected] and follow her on Twitter at @EMarieulwelling.

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  • BillClitone

    Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another, which often results in discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity.

    saying it is ok to be white is not racism. saying ALL white people are bad or racist IS racism.

  • Oakley

    Is it ok to have a sign that says “white is tight”?

  • Tim_Beee

    What is the intent of calling police and declaring investigations? What is the appropriate punishment for someone who thinks It’s Ok To Be White in the year 2017?

  • Slanted vision

    It’s OK to be white but it’s not OK to say so. That privilege is reserved for everyone else.

  • garyfouse

    So what’s the problem? Is someone offended? I suspect this is a reaction to the campaign of anti-whiteness that is taking over universities across the nation. What’s that all about?

    I don’t know who is responsible for this, but I kinda like it. I think what they are trying to say is that whites are not the enemies of non-whites.

  • Oakley

    “UCPD is asking anyone who discovers additional flyers or has any information on those responsible to notify them.”

    Why?

  • Jim Davis

    Liberals are being completely Trolled by 4Chan across the Country. It is OKAY to be white. When Liberals says it’s not, then they are immediately racist. You dumbass liberals don’t realize you were drug into this to give the exact response you are giving. Liberal white people are the most racist on Earth. As a white person, that offends me. It’s about time Bible Thumping Inner City preachers run for office for their cities as Republicans. Why? If I treated my black friends as if they could never be equal to me, I’d be the most racist person on Earth and I’d be liberal. Affirmative action literally says that no one can be equal to whites on their own merit. One of the biggest reasons I voted for Trump? I was tired of people telling me I have White Privilege and I can’t find the line to collect. Moreover, no one alive today lived during or before the Civil war. It’s a fact that all races were in slaved at some point in History. If you didn’t hear what I said about Bible Thumpers running, then read it again. I’d like to see the party of Douglass ressurected in the cities and I’m not interested in those conservative Blacks, Latinos, & others towing the party line. Donna Brazile was used as a slave by Clinton and the Deplorables all saw it. We spoke about it back in July 2016. What is coming out now is that Trump & his supporters were right.

    And if you say “It’s not ok to be right” you are a self hating white liberal or a bigot yourself. You are all rabid commies too. Capitalism funds all other isms and people with money need more of it to hire more people to pay taxes. The more jobs, the more people paying taxes, and you can lower the tax rate.

    We will havee Free Voter ID law soon. Free ID is not against the Consitution. Democrats cannot win most elections fairly. We know this. It’s a fact the DNC primary was rigged by Clinton who used Russian moneyt to take control of the DNC

  • InfinityBall

    Are we absolutely sure it’s not a hate crime to state “it’s ok to be white”?

  • LiberalismFailed

    The hysteria generated by something as harmless as stickers that say “It’s okay to be white” and nothing else, is the reason why we need the IOTBW movement.

  • Kharnivore2099

    “Ooooh, those bloody bastards. Thinking it’s okay to be white, I better write this off as racism…”, said no reasonable person ever.

  • Deandre Darnell Jackson

    The outrage over this doesn’t surprise me. According to Berkeley students and faculty, you’re automatically racist if you’re white. I know students who wouldn’t hesitate to call a new born white baby racist; this is the kind of thinking that is being instilled in certain departments.

  • Alex

    Listen up y’all let me lay this out simply.

    “Black” and “White”
    are racial concepts that developed in the 18th/19th/20th century as part
    of science’s attempt to classify the “races” of the world. This attempt
    was very much related to colonialism and slavery, where these concepts
    were developed to justify the domination of everyone else by people who
    made the cut to be considered white (for a while, Irish, Italians,
    southern Europeans didn’t count btw).

    Today, we know that
    genetically, the idea of race is bullshit. There is greater genetic
    diversity among members of the same so-called race than there is between
    different races. However, African-Americans identify as black because
    of a common cultural legacy that developed from the shared experience of
    being an oppressed racial caste in America. Black culture developed in
    this context of resistance to slavery and oppression.

    But to
    identify as “white” is to identify primarily with the flip side of that
    coin– with the oppression and colonialism of the Americas and Africa,
    slavery, Jim Crow, etc. Whiteness as such ERASES actual pre-existing
    European identities, like Irish, English, German, etc. (These national
    identities, in turn, erase local and other identities as well– like
    being from a town, or being a worker, etc).

    If you’re a
    fair-skinned descendant of European immigrants in America, reflect
    deeply on what it means to be inheritors of the legacy of whiteness, and
    how the concept of “white” was employed to justify slavery and
    colonialism.

    To sum up, “white” as an identity DID NOT EXIST
    prior to racism, and prior to its use as a justification for slavery,
    genocide, discrimination, etc. No one in medieval Europe identified as
    white. Most of the European under-classes didn’t identify as white until
    the 19th or even 20th century.

    And context is important. We all
    know what these signs were meant to signal. We all know the kind of
    person who would put them up.

    • Preaplanes Smith

      Oh really? Ask your doctor about sickle cell anemia, then. See if race is a “social construct.” You dolt.

      • Alex

        sickle cell anemia is a real condition, that existed long before there were black people or white people. because these concepts developed in relation to colonialism and slavery. not a very hard concept to understand.

        • Preaplanes Smith

          And yet “white” people never seem to get it. How odd! It’s almost like there’s a biological link to it or something! But how could that be? Here you are saying it’s all cultural and about racism!

          You really are dense.

          • Alex

            theres a biological link between people with the gene for sickle cell anemia, and people who get it. this does not map on to the category of people who identify or who are racialized as black

            it explains nothing about what being black or being white means.

          • Preaplanes Smith

            And yet that’s not what the doctors say. They will only check black people for sickle cell anaemia because only black people get it. You really are clueless. Race IS biological, and no amount of yelling about the irish in 1870 will change that.

          • InfinityBall

            This actually isn’t true. The gene has spread to some warm weather areas around the Middle East, and in Europe it’s found in Greeks.

          • Oakley

            Here’s a connersation that will never happen:

            Guy 1: Black Lives Matter!
            Alex: It’s stupid to feel and say that.

    • Preaplanes Smith

      The kind of person who would put them up is the kind of person who knows that people who are racist against “white” people, such as yourself, wouldn’t be able to help but display their own overt racism against whites and make something that is completely neutral out to be some sort of hate crime.

      And you took the bait like carp. It’s like you can’t help yourselves.

    • Chompskihonk

      Alex, it is correct to say that white isn’t really a clear identity. For example, Hispanic and Turkish people identify as white, and there has often been a dynamic in Europe where Eastern Europeans were labeled as Asian. But this isn’t something new in the 19th century.. and colonialism started in the 15th century. Also, the idea that white erases pre-existing European identities is silly, because identities like Irish and English and German are made up indentities anyway. Irish is Celtic and English is German, all groups of people who migrated from Central Asia.

      I encourage you to study history further back and you will see the dynamics of ethnic conflict did not start in the 19th century, nor the justification of slavery and oppression of people. Rather, the 19th century was the turning point for the end of slavery, oppression, and ethnic conflict.

      • Preaplanes Smith

        @chompskihonk:disqus Agreed, it isn’t clear, but nothing in biology is clear. Unless all groups close to yours have gone extinct, there will be a great big fuzzy line between not just races, but species as well.

        Take ring species. Group A can breed with B, B with C, C with D, D with E, and E with F. However, F cannot breed with A. How is it possible, if A and B are close enough to be able to breed, and we define species as being able to breed with each other? Where is the line between A and F? If the whole thing is one species, why does there exist one group that can’t breed with the other?

        Simply put, nature doesn’t play well with our desire to make neat, organized little categories. Race, you see, works in just the same way as species there. Like the ring species, there is no hard and fast line between the races, however, if you cross enough ground, you will find races that are distinct from one another, just as A was distinct from F.

    • Chompskihonk

      Further, I would add that race and even ethnicity is an identity people cling to out of insecurity. It’s fruitless to demand people abandon their racial identity, you may as well ask people to stop having anxiety or depression. Constructed identities are a human coping mechanism. They aren’t the source of slavery and oppression, those evils are even more innate. Eliminating ‘whiteness’ would not see the end of discrimination, nor is it even possible. It’s a big waste of time argument and only a foil for a flimsy historical premise.

      To understand the real roots of discrimination, look back to ancient times.. you will see these patterns have been with us all along. Roman’s v. Germans, Germans v. Slavs, Slavs v. Mongols.. it is our default state to be inhumane, not a 19th century invention.

    • InfinityBall

      Today, we know that genetically, the idea of race is bullshit. There is greater genetic diversity among members of the same so-called race than there is betweendifferent races.

      Ah, Lewtonin’s fallacy. Similarly, there is greater expression of height between members of one $ex than there is between the sexes, therefore men aren’t taller than women. Nonsense, of course.

      Sorry, what you’ve posted as support is completely irrelevant to what you’ve claimed.

      • Alex

        “Race” implies that people in the same race should be more closely related to one another than to people of other supposed races. DNA shows this isn’t true– two different people who are racialized as black can easily be more distantly related to one another than either one might be to someone who is racialized as white. A “white” person from Germany and a “black” person from Ghana might be more closely related to one another, than that same black person from Ghana is to someone from South Africa. Blackness and whiteness, then, are historical and cultural ways of understanding difference. It just so happens that whiteness is based on the historical tradition of white supremacy and racism.

        • Oakley

          Perception is reality.

          Why does this make you so butt-hurt?

        • InfinityBall

          Here’s the problem: what you’ve written is simply wrong. You have been lied to. you might have heard of Lewtownin’s Fallacy and believed what people said about it. It’s not true. Yes, most genetic variation exists across races, but that doesn’t mean it’s equally spread out.

          You’re more closely related to your brother than your fourth cousin. You’re more closely related to your fourth cousin than your 10th cousin. You’re more closely related to your 10th cousin than a Bushman.

        • InfinityBall

          And frankly, I’m appalled at the amount of anti-education you must have been fed to believe that your cousins are more distantly related to you than your more distant relatives.

        • InfinityBall

          I mean, if you were right, you’d have a completely random chance of white couples having black babies, black couples having Asian babies, etc. Pure lunacy.

    • Oakley

      What utter nonsense

    • ok 2b

      What race is Sandy Cheeks, the Texan squirrel from SpongeBob SquarePants?

      Sure, she’s a squirrel, but is she a black squirrel? Is she a Native American squirrel?

      It’s okay, you can say it.

  • Wally

    The ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

    • Preaplanes Smith

      Look mate, say what you want, I’m no censorious bigoted moron, but you’re going to need some pretty freakin’ impressive data to explain away the huge number of people who went missing, along with the eyewitnesses. Yes, witness testimony is the flimsiest kind of evidence, but that much of it does add up.
      Holocaust denialism seems akin to Roswell fanaticism, bigfoot hunting, and patriarchy theory in that they’re all absurd conspiracy theories.

  • Thelma

    Is it NOT okay to be white?? Do tell.

    Snowflakes at Berkeley need to get out of their safe spaces once in a while. The whole world isn’t baskets of puppies and coloring books.

    • Alex

      “White” isn’t a natural category. White is a race concept developed pretty recently to justify things like slavery and colonialism. Race theory is discredited. No one prior to, mostly, the 19th century identified as white.

      • Thelma

        I hope you haven’t gone $100,000 in debt to learn such idiotic nonsense. It qualifies for nothing other than being an idiot.

        • Alex

          no substantive response, noted

          • Preaplanes Smith

            All your response is is crying about how race was used incorrectly centuries ago. That seems to be a running theme, clinging to race relations dozens or hundreds of years in the past to justify your own stupidity now.

          • Alex

            If you think there is ANY “correct” way to use race now, as a valid term, you are disagreeing with pretty much every biologist on earth. Race theory is soundly refuted.

            The point of discussing the history of the concept of Whiteness is to demonstrate that the concept itself has always been used as a justification of racism. Whiteness means nothing outside of its racist history. You can’t separate the concept of whiteness from its use as a justification for things like slavery, colonialism, and discrimination. This all continues today.

          • Preaplanes Smith

            Oh I can, and did. It comes down to DNA. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, you far leftist commiefornians seem to enjoy smoking things.

          • Alex

            if it comes down to DNA then why were the Irish not white in 1870 but they are now

          • Preaplanes Smith

            Did I say “I’m using the definition of white used in 1870”? No, I did not. Straw man fallacy, your argument is invalid. Try again.

          • Alex

            read a book written after 1950 or one that you didnt buy at the airport

          • Preaplanes Smith

            Sure, I’ll read “The Bell Curve.”

            Triggered, snowflake?

          • Alex

            a book that literally no one except old racist crackpots takes seriously

          • Preaplanes Smith

            Yup, see? Triggered ya. Goodness gracious, it’s REALLY easy to get under your skin with even the slightest effort. Maybe stop thinking with your gut instinct and your “____ studies” courses and start doing some ACTUAL studies.

          • Alex

            wow good job, you really got me, you racist on the internet. so triggered. never encountered one of your type before. the horror

          • Preaplanes Smith

            Oh? I’m a racist, am I? I’m not the one getting offended over someone telling other people they don’t need to feel bad about being white. I suppose you’d have the same problem with a “Black lives matter” sign? After all, “black” is just a social construct, and you know the kinds of people who would put that out there!
            I don’t care about your labels you throw at anyone right of Hugo Chavez, but to me, you seem far, far more racist.

          • lspanker

            Hmm, you seem to be smarter and more enlightened than everyone else. Care to tell us what parts of that book are factually incorrect?

          • Oakley

            Are you putting Thomas Sewell into one of hose two buckets?

          • lspanker

            The point of discussing the history of the concept of Whiteness is to demonstrate that the concept itself has always been used as a justification of racism.

            And all this time I thought it was about convincing us which brand of laundry detergent would get our clothes the cleanest… silly me. :O|

          • lspanker

            clinging to race relations dozens or hundreds of years in the past to justify your own stupidity now.

            Damn, you nailed it!

          • Thelma

            Ha ha. You’re really up to your eyeballs in debt for… gender studies. Man did you ever get ripped off.

          • Alex

            you seem pretty triggered by the idea of ethnic studies or gender studies. have you ever actually taken a class in these fields?

          • Thelma

            I studied real subjects.

          • zzz

            I had t he choice of ethnic studies or chem trail studies.

          • lspanker

            Most of us who had to pay back our own college loans weren’t interested in wasting time and money on unnecessary drivel such as Ethnic Studies, a program specifically developed for AA/Diversity types who lacked the intellectual aptitude and/or demonstrated ability to make it through an academically rigorous degree program. Those of us who actually were interested in acquiring useful knowledge that could be applied in a career field that offered some semblance of decent compensation, took the required coursework, a few electives that were perhaps of personal interest, and graduated.

      • Preaplanes Smith

        Would you prefer “European”? It’s a categorization. I promise you nobody identified ad “genderqueer” in the 18th century, either, and yet I get the feeling you’d say that one’s perfectly valid.

        • Alex

          the signs say “White”, though, which is what I am addressing. It’s dumb to identify positively as white, since white is not a historical identity. It is not in any sense traditional, or tied to any culture. It is a race concept invented in the 19th century as part of a hair-brained schema called race science, that was used to justify things like slavery and colonialism. It erases actual European identities.

          • Preaplanes Smith

            Let me put it this way.
            Animal- Really really broad
            Mammal- Really broad
            Primate- Very broad
            Human- Broad
            Ethnicity- Narrow
            Ancestral nationality- Narrower
            Family tree- Very narrow
            DNA sequence- really narrow

          • Alex

            this is literally gibberish

          • Preaplanes Smith

            Yes, I realize the concept of “levels of classification” might be a bit beyond you “_____ Studies” majors.

          • Alex

            you just made these up on the spot, lmao

          • Preaplanes Smith

            Why yes, I did, as an example that things can be used to classify things at different levels. And it’s an accurate categorization, if simplistic. Then again, I guess it wasn’t that simplistic if it went right over your head. That or you’re a very simple-minded person. Likely the latter.

          • lspanker

            Compared to what you posted, not really.

          • Nunya Beeswax

            Read Foucault’s The Order of Things. All identities, all classifications, are arbitrary and provisional.

          • consider

            Postmodernism is worthless nonsense which assumes that “validity” is simply the inverse of “arbitrary”, when in reality categorization is simply the extension of set theory into the realm of actually accomplishing things in the real world.

          • Nunya Beeswax

            That would have been a real zinger if Foucault had been a postmodernist.

          • consider

            Yeah, because if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and chants the duck mantra without deviation then it can just say, “I’m no duck,” and it’s a penguin.

          • Oakley

            The New York Yankees are a relatively new organizarion

            Is it wrong to identify as a Yankees fan?

          • California Defender

            You’re deflecting. To say white identification is not part of any historical identity is patently false. It’s also a category on census questionnaires and in countless academic studies because the meaning of “white” is universally defined and attributed.

            How about a sign stating “It’s okay to be American”? Historically, the American nationality and ethnic identification means being a white European,
            primarily British.

            Following your logic, it’s “dumb” to identify as American, too.

      • lspanker

        Why does this offend you so much, unless you’re one of those people who is dependent on perpetuating white guilt in order to get ahead in life?

      • LiberalismFailed

        Why don’t you go look at antiquity, like the Ancient Egyptian murals where they painstakingly and obsessively categorize people by race?

        • Alex

          Egyptian murals depict people in different colors, or wearing different types of clothing. Color =/= race. Clothing from different parts of the world =/= race. Egyptians had their own culturally and historically specific systems of classification for outsider/insider, and for different identities. These were NOT the same racial classifications that people use today. How Egyptians understood difference has very little to do with how 21st Americans understand difference.

          What is so hard to understand about the idea that “race”, in the 21st century sense, is a specific phenomenon, with a specific history?

      • Nunya Beeswax

        So then, “black” and “Asian” aren’t natural categories either.

  • Left Unsaid

    Erasing whiteness will soon be a doctorate program.

    • Thelma

      It is already, but it’s listed as intersectional feminism.

  • BLM

    These posters are so racist! Of course “It’s NOT okay to be white!” Got it?

  • signoradefarge

    Is it wrong to be white? Aren’t we all born what we are? Are we all evil people? “Berkeley stands united against hate” – should all white people be objects of hatred?

    • Emilia M.

      According to leftist professors, and parts of the media, it is VERY wrong to be white. These people will tell you that if you are white, then you are automatically a racist, a xenophobe and that you have some kind of privilege.

      • Thelma

        They should make special fountains for the whites.

        • Slanted vision

          Noooooo!
          Separate plumbing facilities are a crime against humanity.

    • Alex

      You’re not born white. White isn’t a natural category. White is a race concept from the 18th/19th/20th century, and it did not exist prior to its creation as a justification for slavery and colonialism. “White” erases actual European identities.

      • Preaplanes Smith

        Coming from a bio major: you’re an idiot. White people have traces of neandertal in their DNA. It’s pretty distinctive. The only way you could say “race is a myth” is the same way you could say “speciation is a myth”: by looking at the changes in genetic makeup too widely or too narrowly.

        • Alex

          Who do you define as “white”? What criteria do you use? Any attempt to do so will fail, or be completely unscientific. You, and every other moronic racist biologist of the 20th century, fail to provide a satisfactory boundary that could be considered a race. There are loads of people around the world with Neandertal DNA who would not be considered white by 20th/21st century racial logic. “Having neandertal DNA” as a criteria has absolutely nothing to do with how people in our society think of whiteness, or define people as white.

          Whiteness is CONTEXTUAL AND HISTORICAL. The Irish were literally NOT white in the 19th century. Then when they came to the US, they became white.

          • Preaplanes Smith

            Name the hard boundary of a species. Oh, and careful, ring species exist.

          • Alex

            don’t see how that’s relevant. when talking about ethnicity and race, history and context are valuable things to consider, while biology is not. biology has very little to do with the idea of race, what it meant in the past, and what it means now. the greatest contribution of biology is to show definitively that there is no basis for race theory in biology at all. categories of race like white or black do not map neatly onto any measurable biological category. when discussing these concepts, a far more salient thing to look at is the historical contexts in which different populations are racialized. for the Irish, they are not counted as white when they are an oppressed and colonized caste in Europe. When they came to the US, they gained status as whites through differentiating themselves from another oppressed class, enslaved and formerly enslaved African Americans. Whiteness for that group had everything to do with social and economic factors and nothing to do with their biology.

          • Preaplanes Smith

            Race and ethnicity are down to biology and ancestry. And like species, there is no hard and fast line between ethnicities. You apparently don’t have the wherewithal to answer a question and avoid writing a rant, assuming where your opponent is going and attempting to cut them off, thus making a fool of yourself.
            You have no comprehension of biology, don’t quit your day job. If you have one. I doubt it.

          • Preaplanes Smith

            Also, genetic fallacy (no pun intended), we’re not talking about ethnicity in the 19th century, we’re talking about it now.

          • Slanted vision

            BS. Legally they were always white.

          • JGD85

            Isn’t it interesting how they try to undermine white identity by saying “well what is white?” but they sure know what white is when it comes time to guilt tripping us? Suddenly when whites start caring about their interests it all becomes nebulous to them lol.

      • lspanker

        White is a race concept from the 18th/19th/20th century, and it did not exist prior to its creation as a justification for slavery and colonialism.

        Did you read that verbatim out of a freshman Ethnic Studies textbook or what?

      • zzz

        Are you also a creationist?

  • mercurywoodrose

    white guy here. what a typical white thing to say. might as well say “being white sure is swell” or “hey gang, lets all be white!”

    • Preaplanes Smith

      “I don’t hate myself for being white.”
      “Ugh! What a disgusting racist bigot!”
      That is you. That is how you talk.

    • LordGreyFalcon

      You forgot, “Golly gee whillickers.”

  • California Defender

    Mind blowing.

    Likely the first time this radical concept has ever been heard at Berkeley.

  • Mr. Smith

    I love how snowflakes are freaking out about this, calling the posters racist. I just love it!

    • Thelma

      They don’t know which way is up. Danger! Danger! It does not compute!

  • LordGreyFalcon

    It’s okay to be white. It’s okay to be black. It’s okay to be you. It’s okay to be me. Well, it’s okay for me to me, you can’t be me. It would be weird if you were me, too. After all, what if we met and fell in love, two of me together? It could end up in one of those Tuesday columns. But seriously, if it’s not a hate crime, why does extra information need to be reported to the police?

    • BerCaley

      “Only campus rules prohibiting posters on UC Berkeley structures or natural features such as trees were violated”

      There are plenty of other quite legal places to post on campus.

      • LordGreyFalcon

        Well, that certainly deserves a full on police response because all larger campus crime has been addressed.

      • mercurywoodrose

        they raped a tree. nonconsensual tree pinning. typical for white people. they only respect the rights of birch and aspen, not trees of color.

      • lspanker

        What upsets you about this so much?

        • BerCaley

          That sounds ‘upset’ to you? Now that’s amusing.