Berkeley can’t solve homelessness with arbitrary regulations

CITY ISSUES: City officials must produce constructive legislation without using dehumanizing rhetoric

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Two years out from his mayoral win in 2016, Berkeley Mayor Jesse Arreguín has made little progress on one of his central platforms — providing resources and improving conditions for Berkeley’s homeless population.

In 2012, Arreguín opposed the controversial proposal of Measure S. The “sit-lie measure, as it came to be known, would have prohibited people from sitting on the streets of commercial areas from the hours of 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. As it became increasingly obvious that the measure would negatively impact homeless populations, it lost traction among voters and failed.

Now, it seems that Berkeley history is repeating itself, with recent discussions surrounding a proposal that would limit an individual to no more than 9 square feet for their belongings on city sidewalks. Authored by Arreguín and City Councilmember Sophie Hahn, this policy is yet another installment in Berkeley’s fruitless efforts to punish homeless populations without providing any resources to uplift the community.

At a special City Council meeting April 26, at which the policy was discussed, Hahn said, “Housing is the only answer to homelessness.” So why is she supporting a policy that in no way serves those without homes?

While the proposed policy to limit the space for a person’s belongings aims to address the growing concern of Berkeley business owners about loitering and misuses of private resources, it ultimately serves as a placeholder for progress. In early March, when City Council was looking to reinstate foot patrol officers in Downtown Berkeley, CEO of the Downtown Berkeley Association John Caner said it would make for a “higher quality of life.” But if the city of Berkeley wants to create policies that foster a greater sense of community and “quality of life,” it should do so for all of its inhabitants — not just those who can afford Berkeley’s incredibly high housing costs.

This policy isn’t the only one discussed in recent months that could displace homeless populations. Arreguín also previously proposed regulations on homeless encampments. His proposal would allow Berkeley to shut down encampments, without notice, if the city determines that the spaces’ health or safety conditions are “severe enough.” While this proposition doesn’t directly threaten to remove encampments, it grants the city powers that further endanger the security of its homeless population.

If Berkeley really wants to help those who live in encampments, it needs to sanction these spaces. Seattle has sanctioned three spaces in the city that allow for homeless encampments. Not only do they offer a realistic path to housing, they provide those who live there with access to government services such as trash pickup and port-a-potties. By acknowledging the reality of its circumstances as well as the needs of its entire population, Seattle is making actual strides to solve its housing crisis.

Berkeley City Council must put an end to dehumanizing legislation. It must start viewing the city as a population of humans instead of plots of land.

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  • Robert Gaebler

    Ah, Nappy the 14, and this is a nudge at Dan Fouts and Islam, since real Boney had to convert, when he led the French down to Egypt, for target-practice at Spinky. You won’t make Muslim, Spammy, but Berkeley might get there, by whatever means that happens.

    • StanFromSomewhere

      I bet you really excite the hot chicks when you tell them that on a date. Is that the reason they never call you back?

  • Robert Gaebler

    See all the gits on stage trying to play GOOD THING? OK, I had THAT all worked up as a hobby, with the old Yardbirds, so Wells Fargo got to rolling me, and it got up on stage, with a lot of Tele-assholes trying to jam it.

    RAIDERS, dude. I play GOOD THING. What about YOU?

    • StanFromSomewhere

      I found one of your more notable compositions – it’s sort of the story of your life, isn’t it? ;-)

      • Robert Gaebler

        You seem to think you are getting yourself somewhere, so OK. I have a CAL degree and roots, in Berkeley, and if YOU think you are getting over, you need to know that very detailed intelligence is gathered, around me, by a lot of different people. You think YOU are immune.

        But there is a corporate presence, that touches the street, which EATS YOU AND SMILES.

        • lspanker

          I have a CAL degree and roots, in Berkeley

          Oh,of that I’m quite sure. You seem to have also partaked a bit too much in the local drug scene, that’s quite obvious as well.

        • StanFromSomewhere

          ” you need to know that very detailed intelligence is gathered, around me, by a lot of different people.”

          Glad to see that intelligence is being gathered by others for you, as you certainly need all the help you can get.

          • Robert Gaebler

            I don’t know why you want THAT “help,” hey.

            THAT help does stuff like whacks your sassy club, all of a wicked sudden because you are a goober from Broward, messing with Cali, so the honor killing is on, SUDDENLY.

            See how Ramadan is almost HERE? YOU get help, any minute now, sassy toon-boy!

            You seem to be tandem trolling with the Ispanker cartoon.

          • lspanker

            Maybe he’s trolling you, maybe not. But I’ll tell you this – he’s playing you like a fiddle, and you just keep coming back for more. Maybe you need to just walk away from this and give it a rest?

        • Robert Gaebler

          The story of MY life is known, better, by the jinn and Islam.

          So when state and inferiors punk at me?

          BAD THINGS HAPPEN, such as when wiseguys think they call shots in California.

          You don’t know anything, so Mujahidin teach you, THE HARD WAY.

          Like Sonny Bono, I GOT YOU, BABE. Sharia gonna.

          • StanFromSomewhere

            Keep posting, Booby boy. Let the world know you’re a crazed loon – THAT will certainly help you on your next job hunt, won’t it?

  • Robert Gaebler

    OK, trolls, the nowhearthis on ME Is CAL ’73 with AC-DC through ZZ Top, including Halen and The POLICE and Ramones and Stones and find the Pistols and get it about JOURNEY and The DEAD all making Huey and the News, and all were ripped off my Gibson MM1, so you get to recall this, for Ramadan.

    So Jose Garcia-Zarate is a Muhahid who shot Kate the suspected suicide girl in SF, with Matt the CAL bassist, defending in SFCo.Super.Ct.,

    Ramadan 2018 starts TOMORROW. Use the time, wisely.

    • StanFromSomewhere

      Hmm, lemme guess: are you a current resident of People’s Park?

      • Robert Gaebler

        Actually, no. You are doing a fan dance and reaching, Spammy.

        The Air Force thing ran out with us because service doesn’t fit you.

        You didn’t make it, and I avoided the draft BECAUSE WARS ARE FRAUDULENTLY WAGED.

        • StanFromSomewhere

          Hmm, that’s 0 for 4 now, Bobbie. How does it feel to be 64 years old and having online tantrums like a spoiled adolescent?

          • Robert Gaebler

            I’m 66. How feelings are is for you, to count up, as your profile info gets you sorted, by someone else.

          • StanFromSomewhere

            “I’m 66.”

            Do you think that makes you look any better, knowing that you’re retirement age and have never accomplished anything productive in your life because of your untreated mental illness? Maybe it’s just me, but I would not exactly find that something to brag about.

          • Robert Gaebler

            Tweaker, I’m your material witness, OR YOU GO GET SOME CLAM, WORRYING ABOUT FUKUSHIMA but hiding this. You finally referred to something I posted, twink! Then you went for the LinkedIn that has NO ACTION, for anyone, since you are a trolling twink, online to keep from chasing cars.

          • Robert Gaebler

            Your mention of the AF physical test in the day means you are a tweaker with unexplained time to post rants, about Berkeley, likely because .edu and the university suck real hard, at BHS, so the kids know to get to USC. But then, the question of bred-suckas making it south messes with it.

            Notice the HOT WATER, at BHS, S from S. My cousin may still coach the polo, and he has to worry.

            Since he’s also a FUKUSHIMA coach!

    • lspanker

      Earth to Robert: My Kook-Meter just hit 11…

      • Robert Gaebler

        You have a meter, and it’s running. Go for it, tandem troll.

  • Robert Gaebler

    OK, Spam from Spudwit. I GET IT. Nancy Skinner once found ME attractive, believe it or don’t.

    YOU also secretly share this, but inappropriately.

  • Robert Gaebler

    I GET IT. Spam from Stankware. I get it. You read my “Reagan” remark.

    OK, Reagan was governor, signed my CAL diploma, and where’s YOURS?

    • StanFromSomewhere

      My diploma’s filed away somewhere in my office, signed by Pete Wilson and Chang-Lin Tien. But thanks for asking.

  • Robert Gaebler

    You get nine square feet on a sidewalk! What more do you want?

    OK, get your tarp over to the freeway or expressway, in some other town.

    NEXT is the general problem, which should be solved, but some people think they let Obama Nazi around when he’s a mushy BOSS, not a leader, so he drones, bails, fails, keeps Mueller, and the fresh fuel rods do ups and downs at Fukushima-Daiichi, PRESIDENT OBAMA GETS IT AND FAILS TO NAME A SUCCESSOR.

    You do NOT get it, and many of you are MAD because DJT 45 is a ginger, getting elected during Toyotathon.

    WHEN MANY OF YOU ARE AIMING THE PRIUS AT OLD WHITE MEN! REALLY!

    YOU were going to elect Trump, since Breakfast at Tiffany’s 1961, Goldfinger 1964, KELLY’S HEROES 1967, with a Don and a Donald, flanking Kelly, by Clint Eastwood, to go see that SS sergeant, with a Heidelberg scar, looks like Trump, in the Tiger.

    Hey? BEFORE THE BEATLES BROKE UP, meatles. So there was a chance, for another outcome!

    Not with YOU all steering this nonsense, like at OPINIONS, which everyone has, believe it or don’t.

  • Robert Gaebler

    Homelessness has to be a recurrent problem because you let the same Jesuit-downlow gits all churn up trouble and spin on spam, for money, while funding fraud, centrally, and since there’s corporations the whole nuisance is somehow not ‘socialist.’

    See Nancy Skinner from PVP or Jerry Brown from Sacramento or any other Catholic gits in your face?

    YEAR AFTER YEAR? It’s because they are illegal interests, playing loads of hedges, to a crash.

    When the crash gets here, and it will, you will find out it was PLAYED, while value was removed, deliberately.

  • Robert Gaebler

    Homelessness will be a function of failure of economics, agreed.

    OK, now that we agree, WE GET THE MATERIAL WITNESS UP THERE, on the stand.

    Or we cannot clear the agenda slate, to assign public monies to do what we need done.

    You let Mueller trash FBI so 911 ate world.

    Mueller’s BACK, and you still think you have False-Flag Bob AND BEER!

    What could you sky-high-airlines-technical sergeants all be thinking?

    YOU NEED TO BUST THE CROOKS, and put them in the US Joint.

    FOR SMOKING, CAL that tries to think, while holding a hit in, until it pops your ears.

    • lspanker

      You let Mueller trash FBI so 911 ate world.

      Dude, are you like an ESL student or what?

  • Robert Gaebler

    One thing you do not do is let some SCUD take over a thread.

    OK, adjust the SCUD, and THEN you get to roll, onward.

  • Robert Gaebler

    IF you cheat at reporting, and you do it a lot, and you distort equities, VOTING FOR REAGAN will get you in trouble, which is to say same-same, Clinton-Obama or Bush-Trump, since you all assert False-Flag Bob Mueller III, who trashed USDCs for Clinton and FBI for Bush, so Atta could board and crash, BOTH.

    WITH NO DISCOVERY, YET! AND YOU ARE NOT HOMELESS, YET?

    Why then. Let it ripen, like your old trash, which I took out, but YOU WERE IN LOVE.

    You had to have it back in the house. And so, you fetched a pail or a thousand, and so, I toil.

    I am a jihadi. I spend POSITIVE EFFORT.

    GIGO happens, when you let garbage rule an economy.

    Taking it back OUT has value! It’s my life, you see.

    • StanFromSomewhere

      (voice over loudspeaker):

      “LAY DOWN THE CRACK PIPE AND STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD!!!

      • Robert Gaebler

        I posted “discovery” and you rant “crack pipe.” You are a punk who thinks he’s a comic.

        Mr.”FUNNY” guy, from Berkeley High. You hold court like any other insect, praying.

        Tell you what. You moved to California from Washington, which says you are a bossy queen.

        Now that there’s TRUMP, you are this volcano virgin from Washington, into California, and you think your opinions are good to post.

        I don’t think so. Trump TRIED to dump, failed, and now he’s antsy to crash a 747 for you and Fogarty to kiss over, when it lands a little bit hard.

        • StanFromSomewhere

          “You moved to California from Washington” – Where did I say that?

          Funny how a quick perusal of your posts only supports my comments even more.

          • Robert Gaebler

            You aren’t living here? THEN WHY ARE YOU TROLLING AT DAILY CAL?

          • StanFromSomewhere

            You’re 0 for 2 for reading comprehension, Einstein. Perhaps you should engage your brain and think a bit more about what others read before firing off a half-cocked post that indicate that’s you’re not reading with a full deck.

          • Robert Gaebler

            Since you assert without support, like referencing allegations, you rant, without any deductions or even an induction.

            You fail logic and stat, both.

            You didn’t do Colorado Springs, did you, tack sgt.

            I post at Stanford Daily, my uncle WAS once prez of their Alum Assn. and Las Vegas got shot up when Wells Fargo and you Toyotathon dingleberries messed with this, and my LH guitar is better than the corporate cruds who get shot.

            You? Tack Sgt.SPAM, the NOWHERE MAN.

          • StanFromSomewhere

            ” You didn’t do Colorado Springs”

            Never claimed I did – I enlisted after high school, was honorably discharged as an E-5, went to a CC for a couple of years, maintained good grades and got accepted to Cal as a transfer. I don’t see anything wrong with that, so why do you?

            In any case, you’re 0 for 3 now. You really should quit while you’re only slightly behind.

            (BTW, I found what I believe to be your LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-gaebler-03755b29. Interesting how you claim Reagan signed your diploma 40+ years ago but you don’t have a single job listed in your employment history. But that’s a nice little screed you have on your intro profile, and would probably explain why your employment history is about as scarce as the number of upvotes in your Disqus profile. Have you ever considered seeking the services of a mental health professional?)

          • lspanker

            I found what I believe to be your LinkedIn profile

            I give it 99.9999% odds that it IS him. The guy was clearly an advocate and participant of the recreational drug scene when he was at Cal…

          • lspanker

            You fail logic and stat, both.

            Funny, coming from a guy whose own mental faculties are clearly on the fritz. So what recreational pharmaceutical brought you to this enlightened state of consciousness, guru?

      • Robert Gaebler

        CAL ’73 pre-Haas bus.adm. Stank from Somewhere Dark and Special!

        For ‘crack’ season, I used to play old Humble Pie tunes.

        The ones before they started ripping my Gibson.

  • StanFromSomewhere

    If you can’t afford housing in Berkeley, and you’re not gainfully employed, or studying, or have family/friends in Berkeley who can take you in, what the heck are you doing there in the first place? How come those who constantly boo-hoo for the so-called “homeless” can’t answer that question?

    • Sam Spade

      What are you doing here?

      • StanFromSomewhere

        I work for a living, Mike Lee AKA Sam Spade. You and your buddy Zint (who are the recipients of the local’s generosity with housing for those who scream the most) should really try it some time.

        • Sam Spade

          Oh you are so special. There are those that can’t. Abelists believe everybody can.

          A recent report stated that wal mart workers cost tax payers over 2 billion in federal assistance. So much for for getting a job as the only solution

          • StanFromSomewhere

            “Oh you are so special. There are those that can’t. Abelists believe everybody can.”

            Apparently you’re too dumb to realize that anyone who’s up to speed on the Berkeley homeless issue knows your story and background already. You were housed and gainfully employed in Las Vegas until a few years back, until you got the wild idea that you could just move to the SF Bay Area and survive on $900 per month, which show your complete inability to make a rash decision without doing any research beforehand. Yet somehow you’re supposed to be a victim – of what, mental retardation?

          • Sam Spade

            You aren’t the sharpest tack are you. Your hate justifys making things up.
            Show me once where i state im a victim. Homelessness is an economic condition which will never be solved by haters.
            Your solution. Why get out of town
            What hapoens if you get hurt on the job? Can you take a 20% hit plus medical bills?
            What hapoens if you get terminated. Oh thst wont happen because you’re special.
            Nope you’ll come crying to me about how to survive on a tent. My response get a job. Oh thats right you can’t. No matter get out of town.
            I just love mindless hatered

          • StanFromSomewhere

            “You aren’t the sharpest tack are you. Your hate justifys making things up. ”

            I made up nothing. You used to live and work in Las Vegas, then you decided to become a flower child in Frisco, about 50 years too late. You couldn’t make it there, so you migrated to Berkeley instead, That’s all public knowledge, confirmed by your attention-wh0re interviews you gave to the local newsrags.

            “Nope you’ll come crying to me about how to survive on a tent.”

            Having completed the USAF Combat Crew Survival/SEER school at Fairchild AFB in Washington State many years ago, backpacked over the Pacific Crest Trail as a teenager, and made many extended off-roading treks in the Baja desert over the years, I certainly don’t need your “advice” on outdoor survival, which is apparently heavily dependent on being near gullible college students and misguided Berkeley liberals from whom you can panhandle. You equate “survival” with mooching, which is apparently all you know how to do anymore.

          • StanFromSomewhere

            I see we’re back to flagging comments because the truth hurts, right?

            You accuse me of “making things up”, when the fact of the matter is that I made up nothing. You used to live and work in Las Vegas, then you decided to become a flower child in Frisco, about 50 years too late. You couldn’t make it there, so you migrated to Berkeley instead, That’s all public knowledge, confirmed by your attention-wh0re interviews you gave to the local newsrags.

            “Nope you’ll come crying to me about how to survive on a tent.”

            Having completed the USAF Combat Crew Survival/SEER school at Fairchild AFB in Washington State many years ago, backpacked over the Pacific Crest Trail as a teenager, and made many extended off-roading treks in the Baja desert over the years, I certainly don’t need your “advice” on outdoor survival, which is apparently heavily dependent on being near gullible college students and misguided Berkeley liberals from whom you can panhandle. You equate “survival” with mooching, which is apparently all you know how to do anymore.

          • Robert Gaebler

            “Having completed” in Washington State, which is where you better move on back.

            There’s a fatwa, Freddy from Foolsberg.

          • StanFromSomewhere

            Hmm, 139 comments and 1 upvote between all of them. You’re quite the persuasive poster, aren’t you?

          • BerkeleyPhD

            Do you know how much you are costing to tax payers in berkeley?

        • Mike Zint

          Please don’t discuss me. You know nothing of me, my hardships, or what I’ve done for the city.

          • That Guy

            We would not discuss you if you went back to Las Vegas. Try it and see…

    • Robert Gaebler

      What a sorry critic you are, ranting this nonsense about Berkeley, like MAYBE you deserve to constantly update not knowing jack about CAL or BHS or Alameda County or the city or any of the cops or Fred or anyone else, who works there.

      You are a sorry flapper, claiming Washington state, which likely wants none of you.

      • StanFromSomewhere

        Born in Alameda County, attended elementary school in the Easy Bay, Cal grad. Now WTF were you babbling about again?

  • Nunya Beeswax

    Pretending that it’s good for homeless people and residents to just let them squat wherever and do whatever they want isn’t working so well either.

    • Sam Spade

      There is a middle ground. If you could read you would see what it is.
      In speaking with the Mayor at his request i shared with him a reasonable and rational solution none of which has been incorporated

      • StanFromSomewhere

        The “middle ground” means helping out local Berkeley residents who were previously housed and gainfully occupied in productive activities (employed, going to school, raising families) in Berkeley before they fell upon hard times, not provivoding handouts to every out-of-town interloper who showed up looking for freebies.

      • StanFromSomewhere

        The “middle ground” means helping out local Berkeley residents who were previously housed and gainfully occupied in productive activities (employed, going to school, raising families) in Berkeley before they fell upon hard times, not providing handouts to every out-of-town interloper who comes to town looking for freebies. Many of us have empathy for the genuine working poor who have been priced out of Berkeley, NOT for opportunists who seek to capitalize on the misguided generosity and naivete of some of the locals.

        You seem to forget that your history is well known by anyone who has followed this issue for any length of time. Several years ago, you were gainfully employed by [employer name redacted] in Las Vegas, doing your thing in running swap meet gigs and the like – OK. Then, you got this wild idea that you could just show up in SF to take advantage of some type of public assistance program, but apparently had no intellectual curiosity in finding out how much it would COST to live there, where rents are approximately 3x what you would pay for comparable digs in Vegas (whose fault was THAT again). Showing up with barely any money in your pocket, you found out that your imagined $900/month budget wasn’t going to get you a lease on even a storage space, so you slithered across the bridge to Berkeley where you could camp out in the park, beat your chest, and posture as some great savior/activist for homeless. Fact or the matter is you’re nothing but a leeching carpetbagger who had no business coming to Berkeley in the first place. This town would do far better making life miserable for your type until you decide to relocate somewhere that you can afford to live.

        • la di dah

          You are delusional if you think Berkeley has special services that bring the homeless here. Berkeley has really poor homeless services. Do your homework, NoWhere, and you will learn that homeless people are everywhere and housing issues are everywhere. Rent may be cheaper in some parts of the country but salaries are lower in those places, replicating the problem everywhere.

          • StanFromSomewhere

            “You are delusional if you think Berkeley has special services that bring the homeless here.”

            They don’t COME here for the services – that’s my POINT. They come here to sleep in the park, score drugs, panhandle from gullible students and tourists, and steal from the local citizenry – and they get away with it because dumb bunnies like you feel sorry for them and tolerate it.

            “Rent may be cheaper in some parts of the country but salaries are lower in those places”

            How many of those bums in the park are even TRYING to get a job, much less holding one down?